Handle Menopause like a BOSS!

Discover the profound connection between mind, body, and spirit in navigating menopause and health with wisdom, self-acceptance, and grace.

In this episode, Connie Rutledge and Jill Renee Feeler discuss the often-overlooked spiritual and intuitive aspects of health and wellness, especially for menopausal and postmenopausal women. Connie introduces Jill, noting her unique perspective on connecting with one’s deeper self beyond traditional medicine. Jill shares her journey from skepticism to becoming a highly intuitive practitioner, emphasizing the importance of connecting with a higher source or God for overall well-being.

Throughout the conversation, Jill recounts personal experiences, such as dealing with shingles, which highlighted the varied interpretations and approaches to health within her spiritual community. She stresses the balance between traditional medicine and intuitive insights, cautioning against giving too much power to any single practitioner or supplement. Connie and Jill both advocate for self-trust and using one’s unique wisdom to navigate health challenges, especially during menopausal transitions.

They discuss the importance of self-acceptance and grace, particularly during periods of physical and emotional upheaval. Jill emphasizes that individuals are more than their physical symptoms and that recognizing one’s sacred and divine nature can help navigate difficult times. They also talk about the pitfalls of relying solely on external solutions for internal issues and the need for self-advocacy and open-mindedness in seeking health answers.

In conclusion, the conversation highlights the necessity of integrating both physical and spiritual approaches to health. Connie and Jill encourage their audience to explore various tools and perspectives, trust their inner wisdom, and remain hopeful while navigating health challenges. They underscore that true well-being encompasses both physical and internal self-acceptance, advocating for a holistic approach to health and happiness.

[00:00:13]: Introduction to the show and guest Jill Renee Feeler

[00:01:04]: Jill’s background and intuitive journey

[00:03:06]: Jill’s approach to health challenges

[00:06:53]: Connie on finding answers and trusting oneself

[00:09:05]: Embracing self-acceptance and intuition

[00:14:49]: Handling discomfort and self-compassion

[00:18:02]: Recognizing your sacred and glorious self

[00:23:00]: Reframing menopause with grace and flexibility

[00:28:34]: Practical advice for self-advocacy and seeking help

[00:38:53]: The importance of self-acceptance and inner work

• Personal Experiences: Jill shares her personal experiences with menopause and health challenges, highlighting how she combines traditional medicine with intuitive practices to navigate these issues.
• Self-Acceptance and Compassion: Both speakers stress the significance of self-acceptance, grace, and understanding one’s unique journey, encouraging listeners to trust themselves and recognize their inherent worth beyond physical discomforts and societal expectations.
• Advocacy and Flexibility: The discussion includes advice on self-advocacy, adjusting roles and responsibilities, and being open to different solutions without panicking, thereby fostering a more balanced and compassionate approach to health.
• Practical Guidance and Resources: Connie and Jill provide practical guidance on utilizing various tools and resources, including functional medicine, nutrition, and intuitive practices, to support overall well-being and self-discovery.

Transcript

[00:00:13.26] – Connie Rutledge
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. Today, we have such a special show. I feel like we’ve done such a deep dive in all things diet and lifestyle. We talk about this and that, supplements, how to fast, but we just don’t get an opportunity to dive into the more ethereal side, the deeper sense of ourselves. I have the opportunity to be with my dear friend, Jill. She’s so special and has such a wonderful way of giving us a perspective that maybe we hadn’t thought of on a spiritual level. It has nothing to do with religion, has nothing to do with anything except the fact that we are whole and complete. As a menopausal woman, I’m 63.

[00:01:04.23] – Jill Renee Feeler
54 and postmenopausal. I started at 45, which is the earlier end of normal.

[00:01:10.14] – Connie Rutledge
I feel like it’s a wonderful opportunity for a conversation to just tee up some things that maybe we just don’t really consider in our health and wellness and our ability to thrive as we move into the years where they should be the most important and wonderful as ever. Jill, I’d love for you to introduce yourself and maybe a little bit about what you do to just help everybody understand how special she is.

[00:01:41.22] – Jill Renee Feeler
Unique or special? I don’t know. I can definitely go with unique, though. I was always a skeptic of things like an intuitive or a psychic. I didn’t even know the word channeler. Then I just had some very innocent situations in my life where I started to to wonder if there was some advice and insights that I was missing related to business and finance and business career profession. And that just very innocently led me down this very fascinating path that not only is intuition real, but I was told and I was able to prove to myself, I am highly intuitive. So psychic intuitive, but not trying to guess someone’s future, but helping them connect with what I call source energy or God or the Holy spirit, whatever term matters to someone, that there is a bigger sense of who and what we are, and we do have access to that. My linear right brain MBA background, couldn’t get me there. I had to dispel my own beliefs in a way that allowed me to just connect with myself, and I believe, connect with God on another level. So I utilize that highly intuitive skillset for everything and anything in my client’s lives.

[00:03:06.24] – Jill Renee Feeler
I share messages, I do sessions, and I definitely put in a practice. I definitely walk my talk. A lot of That’s it. What was interesting to me is that maybe because I was a skeptic, there was a big part of me that when I started to have different just normal medical experiences, I was offered these traditional views use of metaphors or metaphysical practitioners that, Oh, you have shingles? Oh, Joe, let me look up what it means for you. God must be trying to tell you this or that. I know we’re laughing, but Connie, you know a lot of people really like, No, there’s a lesson in everything, and everything has meaning and purpose, and everything is here for teaching us our lessons. I literally don’t believe that. That’s not the information and the wisdom that I connect to and as in my work and in my literal profession in this area now over almost 15 years, probably or more. And in your physical experience as well. Yes, exactly. I’m laying there in bed with shingles doing my normal research. It’s as my human jaw going, Okay, so this should last about a month. Okay. So at the time, I have a seventh grader and a fourth grader.

[00:04:23.10] – Jill Renee Feeler
Okay, so how am I going to make sure they’re good and making sure my husband’s aware this is going to take a while and this pain is ridiculous. And I wish there was an epidural for this. But my spiritual community, my soulful community, was really offering me a completely different lens that I didn’t agree with. So that experience reminded me of just how many ways we can interpret, perceive, and survive, and live through different health situations that we have. So it was It was really valuable. My choice was to not try to look for a lesson or meaning. Did I take lessons out of it? Yes. I’m speaking specifically of having a shingle in my, whatever it was, early ’40s. Of course, I chose to make lemonade out of lemons, but I wasn’t using very common practices, apparently, that a lot of soulful people do. I continue to use this other approach where, yes, I’m I’m looking at traditional medicine. Yes, I’m looking at a very accepted interpretation of what is happening to me. And of course, I’m connecting with myself and what I call God on a deeper level of what else is going on here.

[00:05:45.28] – Jill Renee Feeler
And I’ve gotten myself through some really uncomfortable, unpleasant, wouldn’t want to wish it on anyone’s situations, recognizing there’s a part of me. I get it. That’s just like, just tell me what it is. Tell how to fix it, and I’ll do anything. I’ve got the supplement cabinets to prove it. Yes, this will fix me. This will heal me. I recognize that for a lot of us that are having any health challenge that we feel ill-prepared for, we start looking for answers, and there’s nothing wrong with that. But when we start to give a supplement or a practitioner of any kind, even a holistic practitioner or something, we start to give them more power than ourselves and our greater sense of well-being. Anyway, I’ve probably talked a lot right now. Which is teeing up a really, really important reason for the conversation because so many of us are looking for answers, and we’re looking in all areas of our availability.

[00:06:53.28] – Connie Rutledge
What’s available to us? What are we choosing? What are we believing to be true and going to work for us? I want to give the audience a real sense of we obviously get to choose and we get to qualify, but we need to use our agency. We need to use our wisdom, our unique sense of who we are. I think some of us have lost that. I find in my practice that many menopausal women, especially, because we just don’t really… We’ve never been here before. We We are falling short of trusting ourselves. We have the tools, and we have the macros, and we have the the intermittent fasting, or we have the supplements, but it It’s not necessarily working in a way that feels solid. I think if we can integrate the knowing and the belief that all is well, even when it doesn’t feel just Because when you’re in this body and things are not the way they used to be and you feel really unbalanced and shaky, it’s really hard to get your footing again. And so many of us have experienced that. And I love the perspective of you are whole and complete in your you, just where you are.

[00:08:26.19] – Connie Rutledge
And I know I talk a lot about self-acceptance and just lean into it’s all going to be okay. That said, easier said than done. We have different thought processes and capabilities than we might know. You’ve helped me so much with that aspect in the more intuitive piece. It’s not like you did it for me. You just allowed me to understand that, okay, Maybe it’s a belief. Maybe there’s something more. Yeah.

[00:09:05.21] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you. It’s been such an honor to meet you and to be alongside you and benefit from your expertise, which is so wide and vast and very different than my own. But thank you for that opportunity to invite others just into a sense of themselves that is really looking for answers, but also looking for reassurance and just wants to maybe hear someone else say, It’s going to be okay. That just gives me goosebumps, doesn’t it? It’s going to be okay. It’s going to be okay. And when we’re not finding another person that can do that, I just really encourage people to do that for yourself. I threw out that shingles experience so long ago, and I’m just using that as one example. I mean, all the menopausal pre, mid, all of it, there’s just to instill all of these years later because I’m nine years from the beginning of my menopausal experience, and nobody was looking for that at 45, by the way. No. I want to say, conditions. My symptoms were not, I guess, as common as other people. It was a rash, Connie. I was literally with clients in the Yucatan, and it was almost like hives.

[00:10:20.11] – Jill Renee Feeler
I wanted to itch my legs off. I was so itchy. A hotel doctor came up at one point and was like, Well… We were trying to go through the, What did you eat? What did you eat? What did you get into? There was no explanation that made sense. I don’t remember what he prescribed, but at some point it started to calm down. But I think Suzanne Somers at one point in one of her experiences had shared that some women at the start of menopause have a superficial rash experience. I did not know that until after the fact. But throughout this, I had to be there for my clients because I create sacred travel experiences and a lot of other fun things. But I was like, Gill, you’re going to be okay. This sucks. This is awful. Don’t try to look for a quick fix or a remedy. Just realize you are more than this itch. You are more than this rush. You are here for these other people, and you’re here for yourself. Do not lose sight of that. I understand that it’s wonderful to hear that from another person, whether it’s somebody like Connie or somebody like me or somebody else that you trust.

[00:11:29.19] – Jill Renee Feeler
But the risk is, and I hope I’m not being too negative here, but there’s a lot of people and products trying to pretend that they have the answers for you. I remember just the worse you feel and the more hopeful you are that you can get better, the more maybe predisposed or susceptible we are to believing something or someone that is misrepresenting itself. Now, I know you, Connie, and you have a very beautiful way of making your recommendation. And I always felt the words from you, and we’ll see if that works. Absolutely. So there’s this natural and wise humility about, I’ve seen this work for other people. I know the research, I know the data, and we’re going to see if your system, Jill, responds in the same way that other people have. And if it doesn’t work, we’ll look at something else. So I think it was in many of my experiences with you that you were reminding me this is all an experiment. So So anytime I come across somebody that’s like, I have some money back guarantee. This is definitely going to fix that problem. This is the answer. And it’s almost in some ways, I might be being a little bit dramatic for a fact, deifying, making into some godly thing this rare root or elk antler, blah, blah, blah.

[00:12:56.12] – Jill Renee Feeler
I don’t know. Now when I see these, I’m more, I don’t think I’m jaded, but I’m just like, I’m a little dubious about whether that thing can help someone with low testosterone or whatever. But I just want everyone to find what works for them. I’m sad that so many of us can be deceived and misled and spend money we don’t have or waste time on things that actually we could have figured out sooner rather than later, that it just wasn’t working or that we had a better answer available to us if we just stayed open-minded and didn’t freak out. The not freaking out part is huge because no great answers or wonderful epiphanies come to you when you’re freaking out. They don’t. They don’t. So my technique for that is I let the part of me going, I’m going to die. This shingles on the left side of my face is the worst. I literally want an epidural for this. No pain medication was helping. Just ice packs was the only thing that gave me relief. It’s important, I to address the part of you that is unhappy or feeling unpleasant about whatever. Let that be real.

[00:14:06.26] – Jill Renee Feeler
You’re not imagining it. It’s real for you and recognize there’s a bigger part of you that knows you’re going to be okay. And you have to make room for that. So sometimes it is saying, my area over my right eyebrow hurts and it’s like a headache. Maybe it’s a migraine. I don’t know. But I know I’m going to be okay.

[00:14:28.24] – Connie Rutledge
Giving yourself the just room and space to balance and just just soften everything, even in the midst of something so uncomfortable and belief that it’s going to be okay. It’s not fake it till you make it.

[00:14:49.10] – Jill Renee Feeler
No. Oh, my gosh. Please, no. Right.

[00:14:51.29] – Connie Rutledge
But it definitely gives just a different lens and qualifies it. Okay, I’m not comfortable today. Even if it’s not something as catastrophic as shingles, if you over ate yesterday and you’re unhappy with your behavior, just qualify it and put it in a box or understand it to be one part of who you are and move on and appreciate that it’s all going to be okay. I feel so many women are panicking in their physical body because it’s not the way they want it to be and having just a negative experience. And that’s so sad. I mean, we’re on the planet. We should enjoy this, especially at this age. When we’re, we’ve done the hard work, we’ve done the heavy lifting, and now it’s time to just really cruise into those wisdom years.

[00:15:54.12] – Jill Renee Feeler
Oh, I love that. I want that to be easier than it is, right? Yeah. I can I can definitely relate to the eating something I know my body didn’t want, didn’t need. And I’m sorry, I’m not going to play the game of, well, it sounded good, so it must be good for me. I’m sorry. No, the ho-hos were not good for me. So the moment later of, Wow, I don’t feel great. What did I eat today? And just for me, anyway, there’s an element of shame. Of course. Just like, what the heck, Jill? You know better than that. And my trick is to put a smile on my face because it’s done. It’s over. I can’t. It is what it is. I put a smile on my face, even if it’s just me laying in bed and I just go, You silly girl, it’s going to be okay. It’s going to be okay, right? You’re going to be all right. Because if I just keep punishing myself, I’m in a way, man Just seeing more disease from something that is in the past.

[00:16:51.06] – Connie Rutledge
It’s really silly, but we all do it, and we’re good at it. We’re well-practiced. It’s a honed skill that we’ve… Because what you focus on grows for the most part. In some ways.

[00:17:03.25] – Jill Renee Feeler
In some groups, yes.

[00:17:04.27] – Connie Rutledge
Yeah. When we can just appreciate a different perspective and believe that we are okay That’s a big piece to our experience.

[00:17:22.09] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s so good.

[00:17:23.15] – Connie Rutledge
We’re doing so much. Well, I think those of us that are tuning in, trying to learn, being diligent, and doing everything right, that’s great. But are you really integrating the trueness of who you are? I think you have such a great way of offering us just a little bit more leaning into that goodness of our true soul self.

[00:17:59.05] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you. I have to have some words about that, right? Yes, please.

[00:18:02.02] – Connie Rutledge
That’s why you’re here.

[00:18:03.03] – Jill Renee Feeler
So just specifically, you are more than any discomfort that you’re feeling. You are more than your menopause, if that’s what you’re experiencing. You are more than a torn retina. I mean, whatever it is, you are more than that. And what is that more? My truth, I can’t prove it, so it would qualify as a belief, is that we are all, as humans, sacred and divine in nature. And that doesn’t always come through in this reality. It may not feel as accessible as we wanted to, but you are a sacred, glorious being, and you are a human as well. Those two can feel like a fight for each other. But rather than looking for signs of your divinity or your sacredness or your gloriousness, just trusting that that’s a baseline because you can’t prove it. That’s where we access transcendence. That’s where we access grace. That’s where we access that bigger part of us that literally has gotten us through so many difficult, challenging, didn’t know if you were going to make it, sorts of situations. I definitely believe what got you through is that transcendence and the parts of you that were sure you couldn’t do something.

[00:19:28.14] – Jill Renee Feeler
Oh, I don’t know how to do this. I’ve never been able to do public speaking. I’ve never been able to be courageous in meeting someone when I’m single and want to meet more people or going to an event and I don’t have my best friend with me. You’ve had moments where you rose to the occasion That’s your transcendence. That’s the part of you that is bigger than what you know, bigger than what you’ve learned, more than your physicality. And where you surprise yourself and go, Oh, that was pretty good. So that’s the same essence of you that you are maybe clinging to in moments of, I’m terrified, or, I hate this part. I don’t know if I can do this. There’s a part of you that you can literally just allow to come up. You allow it. And part of the on-wrap for that is curiosity. So pick anything about your physical journey that you are really, truly challenged by right now. And whatever comes up first is the best one. And just let your brain ask yourself, what if it’s going to be okay? What if I’m going to get through this? I’ll try this and I’ll try that, and I’ll try something else if I need to.

[00:20:43.25] – Jill Renee Feeler
But I am more than that. That allowed me to be a loving, caring mom of my kids as I’m experiencing my own stuff. But menopause, I I wish we had a deeper appreciation for the fact that it is another version of the starting of our cycles, which for most of us was junior high or a little bit before, maybe a little bit after junior high. We were pretty messy at that time. We were a bundle of hormones and emotions, and we didn’t have all of our frontal lobe yet at that age.

[00:21:24.19] – Connie Rutledge
In experience.

[00:21:25.01] – Jill Renee Feeler
In experience in life and so many things. So now you’re going through another version of that You probably have a profession. You have a career. You have responsibilities and jobs and people that rely on you. You have a sense of self that other people expect from you.

[00:21:43.07] – Connie Rutledge
And a sense of what you expect of yourself.

[00:21:45.04] – Jill Renee Feeler
Yes. Thank you.

[00:21:46.19] – Connie Rutledge
Because I see that.

[00:21:48.17] – Jill Renee Feeler
Yes. So it’s just I wish we had more compassion for that. But this is a much harder era of life in which to experience something so unsettling, disarming, in some ways, maybe unexpected, although it should be expected. But we deserve so much grace for ourselves and for each other. When I come across an online chat room or something and they’re talking about some public person saying, What happened to them? And I’m like, She’s 53. I think I know what’s happening to them. If they’re not a version of themselves that we knew when they were 43, we all deserve a lot of grace in this. It’s hard. It’s hard.

[00:22:40.01] – Connie Rutledge
It’s not easy.

[00:22:41.14] – Jill Renee Feeler
Yet it doesn’t have to be such a downer. No. Part of you isn’t falling apart. Your lungs are still working, your legs still work, your eyes still work. I mean, there’s a lot that’s still working, but it can feel like that’s the only thing happening.

[00:23:00.02] – Connie Rutledge
And when you can appreciate your body for giving you symptoms to maybe tee up a need to maybe learn more.

[00:23:11.10] – Jill Renee Feeler
Amen.

[00:23:12.05] – Connie Rutledge
I just want that perspective to be right in front, to not downgrade it and not beat yourself up and not have that level of of contempt for yourself, because I see it in In a lot of my sessions. It’s just it’s heartbreaking. Knowing that, for the most part, you’re trying so hard and you’re not getting the traction that you deserve. Serve. When you can sit back and allow that grace, that’s everything.

[00:23:53.07] – Jill Renee Feeler
Everything.

[00:23:54.09] – Connie Rutledge
To just know that it’s going to be okay and appreciate that it’s It’s the experience that we have in the human body. Bumpy, rocky, yet glorious. It’s so huge.

[00:24:10.21] – Jill Renee Feeler
For any of us that are type A that have mind over matter different things in our life. I can get through this. I can muscle my way through. It’s very humbling. The entire experience is very humbling. Just to echo what you said about deserving more support. Some of the go-to mechanisms that you may have had for being the physical size that you prefer to be. If those tricks, and sometimes they are tricks, aren’t working anymore, you deserve another experiment to run. I am so glad that I eventually stumbled across the topics of functional medicine, which led me to bioidentical hormone replacement therapy and a different way of looking at my thyroid needs and wants. There were a couple of times where I had my certified nurse practitioner locally with a lab order, and you said, Well, I really wish you’d be asking for the free T4 and the free T3 Well, and I’m like, I really like my person, but she’s not asking for that, Connie. Then I realized I had the lab sheet. At the time, it was just ink on a thing. I was like, Well, I’m paying for it anyway. I self-advocated. I Oh, well, I better just do what she said.

[00:25:32.27] – Jill Renee Feeler
I was like, I’m paying for these labs. This is my blood work.

[00:25:36.12] – Connie Rutledge
You didn’t ask permission.

[00:25:37.20] – Jill Renee Feeler
I did not. I took authority and made a checkbox where there hadn’t been for free T4 and free T3. And you and I had a session after I got the lab results, an appointment with you to also get your take on what those results meant. And you and I had our conversation about Cytomel and things I’d never heard of before. Anyway, It’s been you’ve been such a wonderful partner for me and seeing things that my other chosen professionals couldn’t see or weren’t trained in or just weren’t open to. So did sometimes that mean Connie was saying one thing and my CNP Is that what you were saying? Another? Yes, it did. But I didn’t let that freak me out because I wasn’t expecting you or anyone to have all of the answers for me. Oh, I love that. Think of how many of you might be pretending that someone has all the answers for you.

[00:26:30.29] – Connie Rutledge
Are there all the answers? No.

[00:26:34.04] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s another good wrinkle. Number one, there are not all the answers. Number two, somebody doesn’t have all of them. But might they have better answers than you have yourself? That’s an opening. That’s an opportunity for someone.

[00:26:47.05] – Connie Rutledge
It’s just like when you go to build a house, you use all the tools. You don’t just use your hammer and a nail.

[00:26:54.07] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s not going to get the job done. I’m not going to ask the carpenter to do the plumbing. Yeah, exactly.

[00:26:59.05] – Connie Rutledge
So We have so many tools at our disposal, and it’s so wonderful to… And when you don’t know, you don’t know. But I think that’s what we do here, just teeing up different ideas so that you have a broader landscape to play with because it should be like playing, and it shouldn’t be efforting all the time. And When we have the knowledge and the awareness that we have agency and we are in the driver’s seat and we can advocate for ourselves. We have so many more tools available, like you were saying with the bloodwork. I mean, you can order your own bloodwork. You don’t have to go through your doctor. It’s out of pocket, but that works.

[00:27:57.16] – Jill Renee Feeler
It might be less expensive than some of the other things you’re doing. There you go. Exactly.

[00:28:01.02] – Connie Rutledge
That said, there’s so much more to this. Your diet, your lifestyle, all of those things are important. But when we get to just drill down and appreciate that maybe there is a little bit more to it in the more intuitive and spiritual. God gave us a brain, and he gave us our hearts, and he gave us wisdom and grace. He, I don’t know.

[00:28:34.20] – Jill Renee Feeler
Maybe that’s not- That’s okay. I was booking. I was booking up on that, too, so maybe she just said, he, just God. She just said, he. Just give us grace. And that’s where I’m trying to use terminology in the language, too.

[00:28:45.15] – Connie Rutledge
That makes sense. So is there any more wisdom that you could share for those of us that are maybe not so practiced in loving ourselves and and having that grace.

[00:29:02.29] – Jill Renee Feeler
Advocate for yourself in all situations, your inner circle, the people that you love and interact with the most. You don’t have to tell them everything that’s going on if it is related to menopause. But I think it’s totally appropriate if you acted in a way that everybody was like, What happened to Michelle? She used to be such a good presenter, and, wow, she is not herself right now in not a good way. If you recognize that in yourself, I feel like it’s totally appropriate to maybe it is a key client or if you have a boss or a partner, a life partner, a business partner that you’re like, Look, I need to talk to you after. Just going, Did you notice that I was not myself in that moment? Me too. I’ve got some things going on that I’m working through. I’m asking for grace. And maybe it is that, look, I think you should do the presentation next time until I feel more in control of myself. I hate that that’s the case, that we would need to do that. But if you are feeling like something very important needs to get done, maybe it isn’t best for anyone that it’s your job to do that right now.

[00:30:16.09] – Jill Renee Feeler
I look even at my mother’s aging. She’s, I think she’ll be 77 this next birthday. She used to do all the family cooking and family meal planning and all those things. She doesn’t do that anymore. Nobody can do it like my mom in that household, but they figure it out and the roles change. The responsibility shifted. She used to be the one that would take care of others and plan different things, and the rest of us have adjusted accordingly. There wasn’t any family meeting where that needed to happen. We all just, out of love and self-love, were just like, I don’t think that’s her gift anymore. Sometimes I would ask her permission, Are you okay if I host Easter this next year? You guys, the relief. I thought she’d be bothered. I thought she’d be offended because I’m not the cook that she is. She was like, it makes me want to cry. She was, Oh, my God. Would you? Thank you. I got it. Do you want me to help with Christmas stockings for your great grandchildren? I mean, there are so many ways that we aren’t ourselves. Some of those jobs we may just hand off temporarily.

[00:31:29.16] – Jill Renee Feeler
Some of those jobs we may be handing off permanently. So this flexibility and this advocating for ourselves of, I don’t think I’m great at this anymore. Being as self-loving as you can allows… I feel like this part. Next part is big, Connie. When we expect our loved ones, and that could be a life partner to our spouse or any other significant other. When we have high expectations, unreasonably relatively high expectations, that they will understand what we’re going through or they need to understand what we’re going through, we give them a job they are destined to fail. Nobody can understand you. It is your job to understand you.

[00:32:17.00] – Connie Rutledge
That’s big, Jill.

[00:32:18.08] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s huge. That’s big. We take other people off a hook, in a way, by letting ourselves realize they can’t understand what we’re going through. So I’m not going to ask that they understand what I’m going through. It’s my job to understand me, and sometimes I don’t feel like I’m understanding me. So I’m going to reach out where I feel led to get the support I need, be open to answers I never would have considered previously. And it helps those relationships because the last thing we need in these super challenging times in our lives is to cause unnecessary friction and division with the people we love most. That’s good.

[00:33:03.18] – Connie Rutledge
Thank you. You’re welcome. It just takes the pressure off. It does. If you can identify it, especially to yourself, and if you can’t, that’s when maybe you sit and ask for clarification of yourself. I mean, what is it? Put your finger on it and get perspective or use your tools and ask for help with the various, whether it’s a doctor or a practitioner or a spiritual counselor. Or a nutritionist. Or a nutritionist, yeah. Having the understanding and then a plan to be able to follow, to make the efforting less and to gain traction on a solution so that you can feel like you deserve to feel. I mean, I want that more for you than anything. That’s why we’re having this conversation, so you have a better understanding of yourself and just the enormous authority of that availability.

[00:34:18.17] – Jill Renee Feeler
Yeah. It’s so good. Be careful about anyone or anything that’s offering you. This is a guaranteed result. There are no guaranteed results. You are a one-of-a-kind being, and humans are complex. We are very complex. I start to step away when somebody says, I promise you this will work for you. I may have come across as overconfident in some of my work, but it’s not out of misleading. It is out of experience. You’ve probably had that, too, where I guarantee you more magnesium citrate will help with this problem. Exactly. I may back off my own words right there because there are things that are pretty Which guaranteed. But when it’s something that is more complicated that you haven’t been able to solve yet, be very just like, okay, I’ll see if they have an answer. But if they don’t, it doesn’t mean they’re a charlatan. It doesn’t mean you’re doing anything wrong. It just means it didn’t work for you, dear one. That’s all. It’s okay. But hope is everything, Connie. It is. I love hope, and I don’t like false hope. So just that there might be something else that make me feel better. To me, has been a better approach, then there might be an answer for me.

[00:35:37.14] – Jill Renee Feeler
Improvement might be the goal, not 100% fixing it.

[00:35:41.22] – Connie Rutledge
I want to. Yeah, that’s fair. I want to just also bring up the fact that for those that are searching and keep searching and continue to search as they maybe don’t maybe get the full story or they’re looking for the shining, teeing up that conversation as we’re bludgeoned with the social media and the charlatans. There’s a lot of great supplements and a lot of great protocols and a lot of great information in science. How do we qualify to be okay with where we are?

[00:36:30.16] – Jill Renee Feeler
I’ll be honest, and I don’t think I’m ever going to be the person that says I’m totally okay with where I am. I’m a constant improver.

[00:36:41.21] – Connie Rutledge
But you’re not panicking.

[00:36:42.28] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s true. It’s not based It’s not panic. It’s based on curiosity.

[00:36:46.25] – Connie Rutledge
Yes. I am the biggest… I will experience everything. Sometimes I notice a difference, and sometimes I don’t. Sometimes it’s like, Oh, well, I spent that money and played with that, whatever it is. It wasn’t the end all be all. I’m still okay, and maybe I’m looking for a better way, and I’ll never stop doing that. But I think I’m speaking to the person, the woman, or whoever that isn’t comfortable in any situation. There you go.

[00:37:21.04] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you. That’s big. Okay. Any of you that are relating to that statement of I’ve never liked myself, I’ve never loved being in my skin. I’ve never felt a hole and complete. You’re not going to find that in a supplement, and you’re not going to find that with a health solution, you guys, because it’s not there. It’s in you, a layer and a range of you that you’re not currently accessing. If those sentiments were true, you’ve never experienced them before. I would love to help with that. Because that literally is my specialty, is helping letting people acknowledge and start to experience more readily, not through some weird protocol, not through anything strange, just an awareness that I am more than this.

[00:38:14.29] – Connie Rutledge
You’ve helped me so much with that awareness and the ability to just trust my me in whatever shape I’m in and knowing that there’s so much more than the physical. When the physical isn’t so wonderful that it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t take away from me and who I am in a soul sense.

[00:38:37.20] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s right.

[00:38:38.28] – Connie Rutledge
I’m whole and complete. I’m not perfect by any means, but I’m happy. I get to be happy because I know that there’s so much more than the physical body. That’s right.

[00:38:53.06] – Jill Renee Feeler
Yeah. Connie, it’s so good. I feel like there’s so many things we could talk about. If you want to tee up anything on time here, I could go into more specifics of how… Well, okay, I’ll just throw it in here. Especially with the menopause and postmenopausal situation, I definitely had numbers on the pants that I wasn’t like, yay, I love this number on my pants, because I’m not really a person that weighs myself. But it’s the same thing. I don’t like this number on the scale. I don’t like this number on my pants or the letter on my shirt or dress. But I always was like, But I want to look my best. I want to feel my best. That takes some skill and some lens adaptation, because can you imagine had I made myself miserable, which is making everyone else miserable, by me saying, I hate myself right now because of the size on my pants. But sometimes we do that. We do that. For any of us that have appreciated feeling more in control of ourselves, when we start to feel like we don’t have control over things that we used to feel that we have control over or that we want to have control over, we can end up being a person that we don’t like.

[00:40:13.03] – Jill Renee Feeler
If you don’t like you, I It’s pretty certain that other people aren’t really digging. They’re not really loving hanging out with you either. That’s fixable. That’s a mental shift.

[00:40:25.11] – Connie Rutledge
A mental shift.

[00:40:26.03] – Jill Renee Feeler
A mental shift. You deserve to look cute and beautiful and amazing amazing and high functioning, no matter what your pants size, no matter what your scale size. Now, do I love the number on my pants size right now? I do. I love it. I’m so happy. And that took some tricks. I’ll call them tricks just because that’s a good word. Tips and tricks. That I never would have thought of before. But does it solve all your problems? No. Oh, my gosh. No. Thank you. I’ve done plastic surgery, but that’s like people that… And I sound plastic, but That’s like some plastic surgeon’s worst nightmare. It’s somebody that says, My whole world’s going to change when I get my nose job. The MD is like, Do I say no, I’m not doing your nose job. I’m not doing your rhinoplasty because I know you’re wrong about this. Or do they do it? And then hope that they get other support and other help that they need? Because that’s not the solution. But our brain can trick us into thinking that everything would be fine if I just had this part solved. That’s never true.

[00:41:33.06] – Connie Rutledge
Self-acceptance comes from within. Yes.

[00:41:38.10] – Jill Renee Feeler
Some people need to be taught that. You can teach that. I can teach that. You can teach that.

[00:41:44.07] – Connie Rutledge
Jill, how do people get a hold of you?

[00:41:46.06] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you. My website is jillreneefeeler.com

[00:42:03.08] – Connie Rutledge
I highly recommend a session because it’s life-changing, honestly. I, Connie, too.

[00:42:07.13] – Jill Renee Feeler
If there’s a part of you going, Well, why would I need to schedule an appointment with a professional nutritionist? Oh, my gosh, she’s way more than a nutritionist, that’s why. Thank you. Yeah, you’re amazing.

[00:42:19.23] – Connie Rutledge
So amazing. Thank you so much. This has been fun. Thank you. Thank you. I hope that it resonates with you, and I hope that you can hear this, and I hope that you can just appreciate that you are whole and complete, and it doesn’t matter what size you are. And yes, you can work towards improving the physical you, but work on the inside as well. Know that you are amazing exactly where you are. There’s a part of you that is just so big and so vast and so expanded. Don’t miss that.

[00:42:56.11] – Jill Renee Feeler
Glorious. Yes. It’s part of you that’s glorious. Let that through no matter what’s going on. Exactly. Amidst any challenges.

[00:43:02.28] – Connie Rutledge
It might sound silly, and it might sound woo-woo, and it might sound like, Oh, brother.

[00:43:06.26] – Jill Renee Feeler
But so real though. It’s so important. Our brain can really trick us. Yeah. So thank you for that. It’s a good ending.

[00:43:13.12] – Connie Rutledge
All right. Until next time. Thanks for being here.

[00:43:16.28] – Jill Renee Feeler
Bye-bye.