Online Open House May 2024

Jill Renee Feeler
Platinum Age Creations

At a recent Online Open House the topics raised by members were some of the most controversial and/or most challenging to put into practice. Thank you members for raising these topics. Below is the transcript I am led to make available here, outside the membership.

[00:00:02.030] – Jill Renee Feeler
All right, everybody. Welcome to this online open house. I am ultra casual today. My head hurts above my right eyebrow. So it’s going to be good, though. So thank you for being here. Let me spotlight mine for everybody. Okay, there we go. Let’s take a couple of nice deep breaths. I just invite you guys to let your body relax. Let your brain and your heart, let your mind be open to new ideas and to new concepts and new ways of thinking and looking at things that might be more helpful and get better results for you in your your life. Breakthroughs are available in every moment of our lives. Sometimes we can get locked in to ways of thinking that are no longer useful, no longer helpful, and no longer productive. Nice deep breath. Okay. Wiggling fingers, wiggling toes. That feels good. Okay, so we are here for the online open house, and this is a member-led experience. So you guys, I like what we talk about, what you ask, what you want to discuss, what you want to share, and we’re here for that. So for any of you that are live online, feel free to raise your hand.

[00:01:34.570] – Jill Renee Feeler
There should be a little on my screen anyway, it’s a Reactions button and then recognize. Yeah, then there’s a little raise hand option that you can do right there. Okay, raise your hands if you have something you want to talk about? I’m curious if anyone saw the Northern lights. We did not. I was in Scottsdale when it was the most visible here in Idaho. So I missed it that night, and then I tried another night, but I think maybe we saw the Northern lights in Alaska, but I can’t remember. But anyway. All right, you guys. So far no one’s hand is up, so we might have a little short one. I can tell you the retreat was amazing. That was a week and a half ago. We had an outlined with five parts that was offered to me for my connection. I felt led to create. That was the first morning of our full day, which is what I expected that we would get an outline. That outline ended up being absolutely perfect. We recorded all of those messages for those five parts, and then we recorded conversations after those parts, and that worked really well.

[00:03:06.260] – Jill Renee Feeler
Those recordings… That’s a lot of hours of recordings, actually. So I’m contemplating how I want to offer that to those that were not there. It does feel, given some of the depth of the topics, it does feel good to have the message be The messages be shared maybe once every week. I share them in a package thing. And then after it’s maybe sent to you guys on a Thursday night or early Friday morning that we have a Q&A session for that week’s messages. So maybe it would be a five or six week experience together based on those retreats, based on those retreat messages. So I felt like I’d been saying, it’s It is still weird and wild to me and very satisfying that since I added the other career of real estate, the messages and the content and the sessions have actually gotten better, which Just, I mean, to me, it makes sense, but I just never would have expected that. So I like surprises. See you guys chatting over here? Let’s see what’s going on. Yeah, Deborah, it was so good. The retreat was amazing. And Renee, it sounds like you faintly could see the northern lights by your house because of street lights.

[00:04:42.080] – Jill Renee Feeler
The light pollution is definitely effective, but many saw it and sure was beautiful in Minnesota. I bet. Oh, that’s so cool. My parents, since they lived in Minnesota for most of their lives, they had various experiences of seeing the Northern lights just with a naked eye. Some of the I feel that our younger daughter, she had some friends that saw it, but they couldn’t see it as well until it was with their phone, which is interesting. So just looking at the sky, they couldn’t see it. But then the minute they put up their phone, I think their phone, the technology, and it reduces them with the light pollution and focuses on what’s really there or something like that. So I don’t understand the technology of cameras and phones and that stuff, but that sounds like what happened. All right, you guys, is there anything anyone wants to talk about or ask or share? Simon, brother, and Anne. Okay, Simon. Simon, were you being super sweet and waiting for someone else to have a chance to go first? Of course. You know that. Such a gentleman. I think it was in one of the sessions that you and I had, Joe, where my team suggested that I should sometimes maybe more like the wise person that sat and listened rather than always wanting to be joined in a debate and a conversation.

[00:06:29.260] – Simon
Well, you were very patient, and I love that about you because I’m a shareer, too. So I can totally relate that. I’m like, I want to discuss. I want to share something. So I get it. I love you. What’s up? Well, first of all, I love to hear if there is any more about the retreat, because as you know, I was on the last retreat in Idaho and Nicole, and that was just such an incredible experience to spend all that time with you and your team and our individual teams, to be able to really have in-depth conversations and just satiate our curiosity about everything. So that was wonderful. So something occurred to me, and this is a typical theme to me, right? Because I’m always thirst for knowledge. I’m never quite just satisfied with how it is. I want to know how it works. So something occurred to me, and I don’t know if you want to get into this with your team or not, but it’s a little bit more about time-space. In order to ask the question, we experience time, space here in this incarnation in our human body suits as a linear thing.

[00:08:01.290] – Simon
But as I understand it, when we move on, we’re out of our body suits. Time and space doesn’t exist the same way. Everything happens at once, which implies that multiple lives are happening at once. At once is only the way that I can express it in the human language, right? That doesn’t necessarily cover what it really is, but that’s the way I think that we talk about it, and it probably works for our view of things. But once you relinquish your human body suit, and let’s say you go into what we all understand is the life review phase, right? Whether everybody does that or not, or every spirit does or not, that does happen, right? I think we all know and agree that there is a review of what happened and how did that go, if you will, and did we spread love and everything else. But that implies to me that spirit is still, or at least the part of your wider self that then moves back, is perhaps not fully integrated yet with the wider part of you because it’s still looking at things. So let Let me review that instance of my time on the planet Earth.

[00:09:34.300] – Simon
So it’s it is and it isn’t. So that’s a dichotomy for me a little bit. I was just wondering if there’s a way to better understand that.

[00:09:47.230] – Jill Renee Feeler
I would love to try and explain it more clearly, and I really respect the fact that you are honing in on this because it’s actually been… It’s not about lack of clarity, right? It’s just that it’s hard for our brains to grasp it, and we want to grasp it, right? I appreciate that you’re like, There’s a little loose. There’s some loose ends here. Can we do better? So good job, Simon. Okay, so let’s see here. Okay, So let’s focus on… Let’s address the first… Let’s address the issue of the widest range of you having a part of you that’s dedicated to the part, to the humanness that you also were/are. Let’s address that part first. The widest range of you is, and this is a really important word, omnipresent. So that widest range of you, when you’re having a human experience, the expression of the that is, of your all that is, that is that humanness, isn’t not part of your all that is. It’s all simultaneous. So even once that human journey is within past its expire date and it’s done, the life review isn’t like, Oh, I need to go get the part of me that’s doing a life review.

[00:11:21.280] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s not separated. That widest range of us is so weirdly capable of being and doing and experiencing and creating in multiple ways simultaneously, that it’s not affected by that. It doesn’t need to go get it back. It’s not voided by that life review happening. So the full integration, yet there is never not a full integration. Does that help with that part? Yes and no, because I’m still trying to understand it with the human brain. I may be fully integrated, and I understand that my wider self is just another aspect of me, but it’s not another aspect of my brain.

[00:12:08.830] – Simon
That’s the difficult thing to grasp, too. I guess my question is, what is the part of my wider self, or all of them, that is doing the life review Is it the entire spectrum of my word of self, which is omnipresent, is timeless, but the human life experience was timeful, and And so when it comes to an end on Earth here, in our time-space reality, has it already been reviewed? Okay. A thousand times, right? A life review is not required, by the way. And we talked about that when you were here. I think there was a good conversation about that with one of your guys’ loved ones that came through.

[00:13:00.930] – Jill Renee Feeler
So the life review, the way that we look at it, some of us don’t do a life review because we were there. It just happened. And it can be re-experienced in a way that doesn’t even need a recording booth thing. It’s like, yeah, that seems like it just happened, that part. So the sense of time at our all that is, is what we’re grappling with right here. And that is very difficult to explain, but we always love to try. So to widest range of you, this part of you that is this, not part, this experience that you’re having as Simon, can feel timeless to the widest range of you. To the widest range of you, this Simon experience can be happening almost infinitely in a way. It almost is like it’s never over. And that is just wild to think about. Yeah, isn’t it? Yeah. So the idea of the- That makes sense, though. It does make sense. From the timeless perspective.

[00:14:17.300] – Simon
Yes. That it’s always exist.

[00:14:19.850] – Jill Renee Feeler
And You could focus in on it at any time and it’s still there.

[00:14:26.090] – Simon
You know, like that. Yeah. So that’s probably the most relevant thing to address, not what part of you is involved in a life review, right?

[00:14:37.750] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s almost like there’s a part of you that can always be and feel and acknowledge and experience. It’s Simon. Yeah. I think the questioning comes from the fact that we hear so much about life reviews, right? They’re a big topic, and you know I have explored a lot of NDEs and all that stuff.

[00:15:02.970] – Simon
But all of that information, again, is filtered through the human brain and being disseminated through human technology and otherwise. So it can never completely encapsulate. It can only be expressed in human terms. And so, as you just pointed out, as your team pointed out, a lot is missing in how we can communicate it. And if we try and communicate what your team is talking about, you’re just going to go around in circles because you don’t have the conscious experience in the brain to be able to articulate it or even the language to do so, I think. But I get a feeling of it, right? I’m getting a feeling of it. Yeah, that’s good. We’re going to offer another way of looking at this because to us, one of the biggest challenges that we have realized and what we enjoy doing with this group with our Jill, is that the challenge to us wasn’t the brain and human language.

[00:16:17.550] – Jill Renee Feeler
And those to us are amazing. That’s amazing tech. That’s an amazing Those are amazing systems to use. We actually never felt limited by that. What we realized is the biggest limiter to express these types of concepts is the belief systems. In your exploration, creation of NDEs and the afterlife and life reviews and things like that, they tend to be within very limiting belief systems, including the idea which you addressed at the beginning, and I just want to clarify it, that within a lot of those offerings and teachings and things like that that other people are doing, other spiritual experiences, near-death experiencers, spiritual teachers, it’s in this mental framework of belief that lifetimes are happening this one, and then this one, and then this one. So the importance guidance that they place on a life review is you have to know what boxes you checked and what lessons you still need to learn so that in your next life, you can address those and learn from those and do better and all those things. So that entire premise is a belief that the lifetimes are linear and additive, or you can have a really… Apparently, you can have a really horrible life where you undo a lot of the doing that you did before.

[00:17:56.770] – Jill Renee Feeler
So it’s very karmic-based, it’s very dharmic-based, very much influenced by Hinduism in a lot of ways. It was Hindu teachers that were some of the first creators of those explanations, which became belief systems. They’re not the only one, obviously, that believes the reincarnation, but they’ve emphasized the reincarnation a lot. So what we were, and I think we we’ve successfully offered in our work, is if they’re all happening at once, which from the widest range of us, they are. All the lives are happening at once, and there may only be one life. It doesn’t have to be more than one. And you are wholly complete. So they don’t even need to be additive up to some more and more ascended experience. Our offering there takes a lot of the… It dispels… That’s a good word. It dispels, that’s a good word, dispels, it unspels a belief system that we felt was insufficient, limiting, and could be better explained. From our perspective, the reality of the situation, if you will, could be better explained, but not proven, which is why it falls in the category of belief. Yes. So we were very… I like that. Thank you.

[00:19:35.540] – Jill Renee Feeler
We were very… I’m like, Good job. To email the words. I’m like, Good job. We were very and we continuously try to be very respectful and honoring that those belief systems have been in linear time a long time, and they go forward a long time from our viewpoint as well. In other words, if there If those belief systems of Hinduism and reincarnation and karma and Dharma, if they’re still running, it is safe to assume, and it is even wise to assume that they’re adding some value. So if they weren’t being utilized, if they weren’t useful and better at explaining one’s reality and better explaining source and better explaining one’s concept of life and death and all those things, then they wouldn’t be operated. Those beliefs wouldn’t be chosen. The challenge for us, though, is that we wanted something better, even for our human experiences and anyone’s human experience. So we were very, I think, successful at how do we not try to trash those belief systems, but at the same time, how do we offer better explanations? And some of us were very concerned that, well, it’s just going to become another belief system. And then our response was, so what?

[00:21:11.250] – Jill Renee Feeler
There will always be belief systems in humanity because there are so many things that can’t be proven. So the idea that it becomes another belief system is not problematic, especially if it’s better, especially if it’s really good.

[00:21:26.430] – Simon
Yes, that makes a lot of sense. And the point about there must be a reason for those belief systems to sustain. Perhaps it’s because I’m referring to something I heard in, of course, in Miracles about It’s all about extension. If you have a belief system that tells you that being a certain way or loving a certain way is an extension of God and extends everything and the knowledge of God about itself and himself or herself, it’s useful to have that, to have that belief system. It’s useful to the human experience to think that way, to aspire to extend yourself more widely. I’m not sure if that came through what I’m trying to express there.

[00:22:22.950] – Jill Renee Feeler
No, that’s okay. I don’t know about those things as my Joe, but I get it. I think we’re both supportive of the idea that there are various attempts at explaining what’s happening here and what God is or isn’t doing and what its goals might be. To me, I guess this might be a slight edit to what Course in Miracles might be saying in that God doesn’t God doesn’t need to extend itself. God doesn’t need to get bigger and wider and all those things. God is just- This is so cool. Yeah, very curious. It’s like, Well, what if I made a me that was like this, this made like this. It’s just fun.

[00:23:20.830] – Simon
That’s cool. Perhaps this human curiosity that I’m expressing here, but If you really are whole and complete, then it’s just an exercise in interest, but it’s not necessary to understand.

[00:23:40.060] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s right. It’s so true.

[00:23:42.080] – Simon
It’s nice to know.

[00:23:43.040] – Jill Renee Feeler
For those of us.

[00:23:43.740] – Simon
I’m no less because I don’t.

[00:23:46.280] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s right. I’m so glad that that came through as clearly as it did, Simon, and the other things that we’ve done, because to me, that’s so fundamental, especially for a lot of the community, they are coming out of these ideas that we’re not whole and complete, that our souls are deficient in some way, and that our souls are trying to grow and evolve and ascend, and that that’s a purpose for life. The whole notion that it’s not required to believe that, and the whole notion that it might not be true. To us, it is definitely not But again, we can’t prove it. We’re respectful and humble enough to acknowledge that within the human experience, this fits in the category of belief.

[00:24:40.980] – Simon
Yeah. It’s nice to know you can’t get it wrong.

[00:24:43.910] – Jill Renee Feeler
I love that. Plus, because the idea that you can get it wrong, that you can mess up, that you can waste a life, is that you can displease God, is such a common construct in these other belief systems, other than atheism and agnosticism. They don’t have it, right? So this you can’t mess this up is so liberating because from our human brains’ perspective, in all the other belief systems, you can mess it up bad, and that’s scary.

[00:25:24.350] – Simon
Yeah. And the very fact, the idea of messing something up means there are consequences. Otherwise, there wouldn’t be an expression about that. It means either punishment or something, or guilt, or some other state.

[00:25:41.750] – Jill Renee Feeler
Or just you got to keep coming back here. It just You would have to be fired brimstones. So you got to go back. And it’s painful there. It’s risky. It hurts. I get feelings get hurt, and I don’t want to go back. That’s a consequence. You got to keep coming back until you get it right.

[00:25:59.480] – Simon
But as As you said, so liberating. And of course, I can’t speak for everybody when I say we all, but I imagine I probably am. We all forget that once in a while. But to be able to come back to that is, to me, the growth as a human that I’m looking for is, I know I’ll fail sometimes and go back into the old belief systems, hate, anger, but temporarily. The journey for me is to understand sooner and sooner after slipping, if you will, that it’s all okay and you can’t do it wrong. The more time I spend in that state, the more I feel that that’s where I’m meant to be, and we’re all meant to be, ultimately.

[00:26:45.270] – Jill Renee Feeler
Good job. Anger, mad, sad, all those things, those aren’t even old. They’re just patterns. From our perspective, they will always be a part of that reality. They have a function. It’s very useful to get mad and angry and sad in a lot of different ways. So that’s another new idea, the right that we’ve offered that is very contrarian to a lot of the other belief systems that you can ascend out of anger, that you can grow out of sadness, that you could just acknowledge your favorite person in the world just died and just go, Oh, well, it’s okay. I mean, just I don’t want to be a part of that world. I would not want to operate in that human system. To me, but some do, and I’m glad they have that option.

[00:27:42.260] – Simon
Brilliant. Thank you. That really is That was a great conversation. It was very enlightening.

[00:27:48.900] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you, Simon. I love your brother. Thanks for tuning up. I missed you. We missed you at the retreat.

[00:27:55.900] – Simon
I know. I missed being there, too. Another time. I suspect there’ll I need more opportunities, I hope anyway.

[00:28:02.070] – Jill Renee Feeler
I hope so, too. I love you, brother.

[00:28:04.960] – Simon
Me, too.

[00:28:06.980] – Jill Renee Feeler
All right. Anne was next, and then I think Tiffany. Hi, Anne. Hi. Thanks for turning on your camera. It’s nice to see you.

[00:28:19.260] – Anne
Thanks. I’m sorry you’re under the weather.

[00:28:21.720] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you. Me too. I’m okay, though. We’re doing good.

[00:28:26.570] – Anne
In some ways, it’s more of an It’s about my family, but it goes along with the limited belief systems. Where on one hand, I can get and certainly respect that we’re coming in and we all have a right to choose what our pattern is going to be. But on the other hand, it’s gotten more personal because of my family situation and people becoming fundamentalists. But now the new thing is, besides the fundamentalist, is there’s this whole thing about buying But it’s to the point of my brother closed out his 401k to buy silver so that he has enough with the. But it’s consuming because my sisters are in it, my other brother’s in it. I feel bad and I try to stay centered. I don’t go uncentered, but I can’t relate. We’ve had more visits to my mom, and she’s four hours away. We’re traveling up in a car. She’s closer to my other sister. In these conversations, I’ve already said about I don’t like to make decisions. Is based on fear. But then, of course, when we’ll come back is, well, you make decisions based on fear all the time because if a bear is coming towards you, you got to make a decision.

[00:29:56.010] – Anne
But it’s like that’s different. To me, but they’re in this frame. I try to stay neutral, and I get it. I don’t lose it with them, but just I leave there in such angst because rather than cashed in the 401k, and it doesn’t even make sense because he’s got all this. He’s got thousands now in silver, but he doesn’t have it with him. It’s like in a warehouse. I’m thinking, if your storyline is that we’re going to come to an end, there’s going to be no system for you to access it.

[00:30:33.390] – Jill Renee Feeler
Where are you going to go get it?

[00:30:34.920] – Anne
It’s in a warehouse in another state. But they do this. There’s this whole communication, and I am left out of it, but it’s not something I want to be in, but I’m very aware of. It brings up some of the communication lines from when I was growing up because I left at 17. There is stuff, but he’s done stuff to the point that he’s Now he’s paid off his farm, but when he goes to retire, which he wants to do, I don’t think he has enough to live on.

[00:31:10.200] – Jill Renee Feeler
I feel led towards this path for this experience. Is that okay?

[00:31:19.230] – Tiffany
Mm-hmm.

[00:31:20.330] – Jill Renee Feeler
Okay. So let’s take a couple of nice deep breaths together here, you and I, and anyone that wants to join us. Okay, and good job. Would you agree that you have an opinion about what your family members are doing in relation to catastrophic thinking that is making them… That is urging them to decide to put a lot of their… A meaningful amount their wealth in silver. Would you agree that you have an opinion about that? Definitely. Would you agree that you are entitled to that opinion?

[00:32:08.120] – Anne
Yes.

[00:32:09.570] – Jill Renee Feeler
Would you agree that your opinion doesn’t matter to them?

[00:32:15.370] – Anne
Yes.

[00:32:17.220] – Jill Renee Feeler
Would you agree that the advising and advisors that are leading to them making these decisions is probably not as soulful or as wise as they sound?

[00:32:32.000] – Anne
Definitely.

[00:32:34.280] – Jill Renee Feeler
Would you agree that… It’s this next little link in this. Okay, we can skip that one by the chance. Okay. Are you concerned about the financial security of your loved ones making these decisions?

[00:32:54.970] – Anne
Yes.

[00:32:56.630] – Jill Renee Feeler
Is it out of love?

[00:32:59.200] – Tiffany
Yes.

[00:33:00.340] – Jill Renee Feeler
Is it frustrating that they are so easily led towards decisions that a lot of rational people would say is ridiculous?

[00:33:15.920] – Anne
Yes.

[00:33:18.330] – Jill Renee Feeler
Is it irritating that some people with really bad ideas are so good at being convincing?

[00:33:25.400] – Anne
Definitely.

[00:33:28.170] – Jill Renee Feeler
That one to us is actually the most important part of the irritation for you. The fact that people just trying to do the right thing can be so easily convinced by bad ideas.

[00:33:43.320] – Anne
Yes.

[00:33:46.890] – Jill Renee Feeler
And that’s another thing that you and I have in common, Anne. Not that that matters, that you and I have that in common, but I share that with you. It is so frustrating. It’s so frustrating that what to us and I would say to our soulfulness, is just a really bad idea, looks like the best idea ever because of the way it’s offered, because of who’s offering it, and because of the context and this carefully cherry-picked data that they’re pointing to. It’s like, Well, this is happening, and this is happening. So we’ve all got to do this. And you and I and others are going, That’s quite a leap. Okay, yes, that’s a data point. That is a data point. Those are facts. But then this supposed solution is not a solution at all and might go badly. Okay, so let’s just let ourselves be heartbroken, sad, nauseous about that part of this reality. Just let that part of you feel very seen and heard right now because it is nauseating. It It is nauseating, literally.

[00:35:02.690] – Anne
Yeah.

[00:35:03.600] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s not logical.

[00:35:04.990] – Anne
That’s part of it. It’s not logical. Because even with the videos, and I know this is conspiracy theory stuff, I’ll say, who do you think put those videos out? Because I know. Some of those videos are sponsored by the gold companies. Yes. But they can’t hear that. They can’t hear that. They have inside information.

[00:35:25.440] – Jill Renee Feeler
It reminds me when everyone- Oh, they feel so smart.

[00:35:28.890] – Anne
They do. And they feel like it’s like, if you accept Jesus, he’ll save you. It reminds me of that because they’re like, Well, maybe you just want to do it as an investment.

[00:35:40.150] – Jill Renee Feeler
Right.

[00:35:41.080] – Anne
Maybe we would feel better if you go spend $5,000 on silver. It’s just not logical. I think what’s hurtful for me is the sense seeing this going on, knowing I can’t join it, knowing that they won’t see a wider lens, but also saying to myself, do I have to limit the time I spend with them because this is coming up? It’s a continual thing. I leave feeling so heartbroken that this is… And it’s not… I agree with that they have a right to make their own choices, but I really think it’s people taking advantage.

[00:36:24.460] – Jill Renee Feeler
And there are- They are. You’re correct. You don’t even have to just believe that. They are. They are definitely being taken advantage. They would not be buying silver if they had more facts and if they had more discernment. So it is bedding. So here’s the new part in this experience that we’re going to offer you. What if, even though they’re doing something that is irrational and even unintelligent, what if that is true, but somehow they’re still okay? Okay. Okay, there you go. You did it. Perfect. That’s the part that our logic can be stubborn of, well, of course this is going to go badly. And there are so many things that even very intelligent or very logical people do that are doing logical and intelligent things that don’t go the way they should. Right. So this whole selling a farm, selling 401k, buying silver, that looks logically like it will go with a certain way, and it looks like it’ll go badly. But there are so many times when the formula breaks, at some point the logic formula breaks and things are actually okay, that they actually end up better than they should. We don’t have to look at it as grace.

[00:37:47.000] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s just that sometimes A plus B just does not lead to C in this reality. Sometimes that’s good, that even stupid things can end up being okay and just a little blip or like nothing even happened, and it’s all fine in some miracle way. Holding space for that and knowing that, Oh, I know this looks like it could be the biggest mistake in their lives, isn’t that cool that in this reality, it may actually be fine for them?

[00:38:15.320] – Anne
That’s very helpful.

[00:38:16.960] – Jill Renee Feeler
Yeah, it softens you, right?

[00:38:19.170] – Anne
Yeah, that’s very helpful because that was my concern, that it wasn’t going to be okay. It reminds me, remember when we got to the year 2000 and everyone thought something major was going to happen in the computers. And then we got past it and no one said a damn thing.

[00:38:36.600] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s right. Thank you for that example, because I was thinking of the example in the metaphysical community is about 2012. Well, the Mayan calendar says. So there was all of these, some of them dire predictions, some of them like, well, it’s going to be great. This is going to be the grand awakening. You know what I mean? There were a lot of expectations. So I had that example, but your example is perfect, too. So yes. Now, what happened right there is energetically, you no longer, unless you want to, need a buffer between you and them in the conversations about silver.

[00:39:12.890] – Anne
Right. Now, that’s very helpful.

[00:39:16.280] – Jill Renee Feeler
Good. I’m so glad. Good job, too. And then, and the other thing regarding being surrounded by evangelical Christians. And some people don’t know that term, by the way. I realized that evangelical is not a term that, I guess, is used as commonly outside the US. So what we mean by that, you guys, is a Christian that will show you the Bible and say everything is in here. This word for word is correct. We don’t question it. We just follow this book, this word. That’s what evangelical is. It’s a literal interpretation of the Bible as much as they possibly can, and that’s what that is. Anyway, just wanted to give that definition for people. In my experience now more with the evangelical Christian types of folks, I am even more cognizant of the words that I use. When we did that updated simulation hypothesis conversation in April of a few years ago, and we started to use new language and offer new terms for things within our belief system and how we think things actually work, that was a step towards that. And now I’ve stepped even more closely to it that If I am talking about my work or just like, Well, how is that possible?

[00:40:36.660] – Jill Renee Feeler
The Holy spirit’s amazing. I use the term the Holy spirit. I do not use among those types of people, even if I’m not even talking about my work. Well, you’re concerned about society or public policy or whatever. The Holy spirit works. The Holy spirit works. Anything’s possible. Great outcomes are possible. I do not use source. I do not use God, Goddess. I do not use creative origin. I use a term that they are not suspicious of. And to me, that’s not a step down of what I believe or stepping out of what I am true and satisfied by. It’s simply being diplomatic, that there’s a term that may continue the conversation or just be more pleasing to me because I don’t like side eye. I don’t like that feeling as my Joe because it feels… I love these ideas so much. I don’t like it when they… Or I feel disrespected. It’s like it works better than what you got, bro. You know what I mean? So by using terms, and I know we’ve talked about this before, but I just want to offer that if there’s any cringy terms that they use, maybe it doesn’t have to be cringy either.

[00:41:57.720] – Jill Renee Feeler
I don’t know. Right. It’s also less isolating. It feels isolating, and I’m not saying you’re doing this, but when we are in people with different belief systems, if we’re like, Oh, they just like, God, I don’t like that word God. Oh, they just said the Holy spirit. I don’t like that word. You know what I mean? Oh, they just said Amen. I hate that word. When we bristle towards words that other people use, we are unnecessarily upsetting ourselves and unnecessarily getting out of our center, which is normally pretty chill and calm. That’s fine. They can use whatever the word they want to, and so can we. Right.

[00:42:46.370] – Anne
That’s very helpful.

[00:42:47.760] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s right. Thank you. You feel better? Yeah, you look so much more relaxed, and I’m so happy about that. That’s good. And I’m concerned, too. So I’m right there with you and praying things go well. Amen.

[00:43:00.060] – Anne
I hear you. I hear you. Thank you.

[00:43:03.380] – Jill Renee Feeler
Love you so much, Anne.

[00:43:05.540] – Anne
Love you. I hope you feel better.

[00:43:07.250] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you so much. I’m sure I will. Thank you. I love you.

[00:43:10.960] – Anne
Love you.

[00:43:13.170] – Jill Renee Feeler
All right, Tiffany, you’re next.

[00:43:17.170] – Tiffany
Hi. Can you hear me?

[00:43:18.450] – Jill Renee Feeler
I can. You even put your own hand down. You’re such a pro.

[00:43:22.900] – Tiffany
Oh, no, I didn’t. That was Anne. My hand’s still up.

[00:43:25.490] – Jill Renee Feeler
Oh, there it is. Okay. Now, I can lower.

[00:43:27.140] – Tiffany
Lower hand. Okay, there we go.

[00:43:28.440] – Jill Renee Feeler
You did I love it. That’s so good. Hi.

[00:43:32.350] – Tiffany
Hi. Okay. Just two things when I was listening to you and Simon. Well, one thing from you and Simon, then one thing I wanted to follow up from our conversation the other day. You were talking about limitations and limiting beliefs, and this is not how you used it, but so often you hear limiting beliefs as a negative thing, right, out in the world. And to me, well, First of all, I think I’ve cultivated a way of trying on beliefs and see how this… Let’s see how this belief works. I’m very adventurous when it comes to that. But sometimes I think limitations are the key to creativity. And so I think that’s why limitations are a cool thing, right? Especially if I’m cooking, Okay, let me see what I can make with just these three things. So sometimes for me, in my experience, limitations are amazing thing because that’s when you get to be creative. So I just wanted to throw that out there with the word limitations.

[00:44:38.610] – Jill Renee Feeler
Good one.

[00:44:39.620] – Tiffany
And then I also, I don’t know why I was thinking about this this morning, but I did take Latin in high school. And in Latin, there are actually three genders. There’s masculine, feminine, and neuter. And I don’t know why that third gender ever went away, but I think it’ll be interesting to see if something like that comes back because with all of the things that are happening now. So that was just my little following up.

[00:45:15.480] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you for that. And so in Latin, then, if something is not within the female designation and not within the male designation is in that neuter category, what pronouns are you I’m just curious.

[00:45:31.480] – Tiffany
I don’t remember.

[00:45:33.050] – Jill Renee Feeler
Okay. I’m just wondering even- It’s neutral.

[00:45:36.460] – Tiffany
It’s something that’s neutral. But the fact that language shapes the way we think so much, it’s interesting to me that that used to be part of the thinking, is that there are some things that are not feminine and not masculine. They are just neutral. They are what they are. I just find it fascinating that now we’re stuck with the two. Here’s where limitations aren’t working for us anymore. Perhaps we need to expand our thinking a little bit.

[00:46:08.680] – Jill Renee Feeler
Can you imagine being in one of the Latin-based languages that uses gender-specific affiliations with everything? Spanish even or French. Yeah, Spanish, French, Italian, all of the Latin-based languages, right? And not English. So Amiga, Amigo. And then what would be, I guess they probably don’t don’t have. For some of them, it is if it’s a human orientation or something where there is a mask in feminine, then they pick one of those. But maybe it does need to be extended to just Amigo. Amigo, Amiga, Amig. Yeah.

[00:46:44.670] – Tiffany
Hey, Amig. I don’t know.

[00:46:46.280] – Jill Renee Feeler
Hey, Chris. I don’t know. Well, let’s just use they/them. Yeah, that’s weird because we use it for a plural. I know. We use it for a plural versus non-gender and non-binary. Oh, man, that’s good. Regarding the believe thing, I thank you so much for that. That’s really good, Tiffany. And it does make me… Because I feel like we’ve talked about it in a different context, but I like the way that you’re adding it. Like games where, okay, eat with or just brush your hands. Press your hand. Oh, my God. So get together. Brush your teeth with your other hand. That’s a limitation, but it requires creativity and awkwardness and silliness in a way. So there are games related to limitations.

[00:47:36.590] – Tiffany
Well, and it’s the foundation of math, right? Math has limitations. And look at all the things you can explore when you put a limitation on something, how creative you can be. And if we’re talking about we’re here because we’re curious, of course, you have to put some limitations to see what happens if. What happens if, right? Anyway, it’s just That’s a different way to think about limits for me.

[00:48:03.010] – Jill Renee Feeler
I love it. I am appreciative. Thank you.

[00:48:07.180] – Tiffany
You’re welcome.

[00:48:07.820] – Jill Renee Feeler
You guys are so good. I don’t have anything else. It’s so good to see you.

[00:48:10.620] – Tiffany
Nice to see you too. Hey, does my team have any opinion about how I did in my I had an interview yesterday.

[00:48:17.440] – Jill Renee Feeler
I just felt nailed it. How did you feel? Oh, good.

[00:48:20.140] – Tiffany
I felt good, but I always feel good. And I don’t always get the job, so I don’t know. We’ll see when I’m looking for something on my desk. I apologize. I should be focused on what we’re talking.

[00:48:29.440] – Jill Renee Feeler
No, You’re fine. If you don’t get it, it’s not because you didn’t nail it. Some people are really good at selling themselves. I was on my first listing appointment on Saturday, and I just found out this morning that I didn’t get it. And the reason they I said, I didn’t get it is because there was an agent that lived in their neighborhood, and they just felt like, Oh, we should really… That person is going to be able to sell the house better because they live in the neighborhood, which they didn’t need a local in their neighborhood to sell their house. It’s a beautiful house. I mean, it’s going to sell, and it’s at a great price point. I hope they price it under $800,000. But anyway, because I don’t think it’s worth more than that. So that house was going to sell itself. They didn’t need an agent. So what if their agent isn’t as good as negotiating? What if their agent isn’t as good as other things? But, oh, they’re from the neighborhood. They prioritized that. And I would not be surprised if that agent did a wonderful job saying, you definitely want somebody in this neighborhood.

[00:49:29.020] – Jill Renee Feeler
We’ve got this uniqueness, we’ve that special feature. And who else is going to offer that other than me? Well, most buyers and their buyer agents, they’re not even talking with that agent. I mean, it was in terms of deciding what house to buy. So they’re not even going to hear her specialization in Mill Creek. You know what I mean? But she sold that as a top priority, and they believed her. And I’m just like, wow. Okay, so what could and what will? I I emphasize more as, well, you definitely want to use me, and that value proposition probably changes every time. So for those of us that don’t think that way of, Oh, we need to sell ourselves because somebody else is going to do it, to sell themselves better than I’m going to sell myself, that is a skill to be curious about.

[00:50:20.480] – Tiffany
Well, and it goes back to what you were talking about with Anne, right? Some people can sell a really bad idea, too. They’re just good at it.

[00:50:27.990] – Jill Renee Feeler
Oh, my gosh. I know. Right? Damn it. Damn it.

[00:50:32.250] – Tiffany
Damn it.

[00:50:33.410] – Jill Renee Feeler
Right? Damn it. Darn it. Gosh, damn it. Gosh, damn it. Yeah. There are so many times I think, well, I’m Sure, it’ll be fine. I know. I nailed it. And then somebody else had this line in there that just had a little hook to it. And they were like, it’s just so annoying, but it happens, and we could all be better at that and do it in a way that felt authentic and impactful.

[00:51:06.800] – Tiffany
Yeah. It also makes me think of a… I’ve been listening to a podcast with Julia Louis-Dreyfus called Wiser Than Me, where she’s interviewing women that are in their ’70s and ’80s. It’s fabulous. I really like it. But anyway, she had an interview with Carol Burnet. And one of the things Carol Burnet said, and I’ve never heard an actress talk about this, right? Usually, they’re like, oh, they’re jealous that that person got it, and they did it. And she said, anytime she didn’t get a part or an audition, she was like, oh, it’s hurt her during this time. So she was just very generous in her not being selected selected? I thought, Oh, that would be really cool. I wish I could embrace that a little bit more.

[00:51:51.090] – Jill Renee Feeler
That’s good. And especially in that profession or any profession where you have to be chosen or hired consistently. Because the demoralization that can come into being a real estate agent or being an actor for sure, because they’re told no all the time. They’re going up for jobs, especially as a young actor. They’d be hearing no so many times before they got a yes. So her system allows for resilience and stability and not freaking out. And I mean, there still could be the hopelessness of, Is it going to be my turn? You could still go there. But that’s beautiful. How graceful.

[00:52:38.000] – Tiffany
Yeah. I was so impressed by her. If you want to bring it back to the spiritual teachings that are out there, not being attached to the outcome. Don’t be attached to the outcome. Just be attached to the process.

[00:52:52.310] – Jill Renee Feeler
Oh, my gosh. Yes. Talking about other beliefs, right? Can you imagine a law of attraction person? Actually, law of attraction type teachings and the secret is really popular in Hollywood because those individuals are looking for systems to be more successful. So it’s like, well, you just have to be positive. You just have to vision that it’s your role. Can you imagine how crumbling that is? Because now their belief system is at stake. Either the belief system is wrong or they’re doing it wrong because the belief system… And so many people, they’re like, well, I can’t question the belief because of course the belief is right. Who am I to question the secret? So it must be me. Right. Anyway, we’re down a rabbit hole. That’s not a good formula. I love you, Tiffany. Thank you for sharing. Thank you.

[00:53:38.370] – Tiffany
All right. Have a good one. I’m going to turn off my camera.

[00:53:40.560] – Jill Renee Feeler
Thank you.

[00:53:41.540] – Tiffany
Okay. All right.

[00:53:44.840] – Jill Renee Feeler
All right, you guys. What else? Let’s see. Lisa shared. Deborah is saying she has a question. Let’s see. Deborah, are you on? Let me see if you’re on If you can share. Deborah, you can go ahead and unmute. I’d love to hear your question. Then I’ll read what Lisa shared. She wrote, Good morning, Jill and everyone. I would like help in clarifying the differences between the ideas I have… You guys are picking really good ones, and I mean hard ones, so I like this. Okay. Lisa is saying, I would like help in clarifying the differences. Deborah unmuted. Okay, so Deborah will do you first, and then I will come back to Lisa’s because that’s going to deserve enough time. Hi, Deborah.

[00:54:37.200] – Debra
Hi, honey. I’m having technical difficulty for whatever reason. Can’t do my picture.

[00:54:43.390] – Jill Renee Feeler
I can hear you okay. Good.

[00:54:45.860] – Debra
I’m at the office.

[00:54:47.640] – Jill Renee Feeler
Nice. Hello, office.

[00:54:52.420] – Debra
I’m just wondering with the political situation right now. I just find it just not saying very much because I find it all to be unproductive on so many levels, and yet don’t want to come apathetic and then want to still be able to engage. It’s so frustrating right now, the thought of where we’re going or the possibility of where we’re going. I don’t know. I just was… Any insight?

[00:55:30.190] – Jill Renee Feeler
To what’s happening? We’d be happy. Yeah, we’d be happy to share because we feel the same way. We see things the same way. The level of dysfunction. I mean, politics is a very unsatisfying system anyway. But the level of dysfunction in US politics is… It’s not that it’s the worst, but the level of dysfunction is serious. So what’s fascinating fascinating to us is how relatively well the country can be and do despite a very, very broken political system. That is very fascinating to us. And it just goes to show that the politics and the political party in the majority and all those things doesn’t have the same significance that one would think it does. So in the case of the US, that’s good news. It is good news that the Americans and others that have a codependence and a mutual alliance or something with Americans, it is a positive that the dire political system is not as harmful of that as one would think it would be, right? So we remain curious about where this situation ends up going and will Americans and America still have the role that it does in global politics and global affairs and industry and commerce and global trade and those sorts of things?

[00:57:29.970] – Jill Renee Feeler
If the political system gets worse, if it stays just as bad, how might this go? But so far, so good in terms of the health of the nation. Again, it’s all relative, Right? I mean, other countries do have very serious problems when you look at Germany and their reliance on Russian oil. That’s serious because they’re not friends other than that. So that’s a weird dynamic. So it is fascinating, but we share your frustration and sense of, how is this even working? That is the miracle in a way. How is this even continuing? But it doesn’t have a replacement yet. And there’s so much invested. We can hear the echoes of John McCain. There’s so much invested in the current system. There’s so much reliance on the current ways of funding elections and getting the right person in the seat from political interest groups. As long as that remains the same, there will probably be a lot of change.

[00:58:47.860] – Debra
Correct.

[00:58:48.570] – Jill Renee Feeler
So now what we’re inviting… What was that, Deborah?

[00:58:53.350] – Debra
I said nobody wants it to change. Either side doesn’t want it to change. And if we can’t take the money out of politics, we’re We’re never going to have the change that we need. So it just you go- That seems logical, but there might be other ways of this change.

[00:59:10.090] – Jill Renee Feeler
It may not require that. And we don’t know what it looks like either, but There are other options. We just don’t know what they are yet either. But what we want to offer you guys is when it seemed like it was functioning better, and maybe it wasn’t, but it probably was. When it was something that you could more satisfyingly identify with when politics or a party or a candidate seemed more wholesome. Like, yes, I feel proud to have this conversation, and I can clearly articulate what we’re for. That started to crumble many elections ago. And that’s what some of you are feeling confused by, is I don’t know how to have these conversations because I don’t have a person I can say, yes, I’m 100% with them. So what Jill has done and what you guys may want to explore a version of it yourself, if you haven’t already, is issues. I am for this issue, and I’m looking for a candidate and a system that can best represent that issue for me. It’s almost party agnostic. In some ways, it’s candidate agnostic. That, to us, is in May, when I Trump got elected. It was not…

[01:00:33.350] – Jill Renee Feeler
Oh, that’s so big. Let me just give me a moment on this because this is super important and I love how it’s coming out. It’s a different articulation of the situation. There is still this traditional mindset of the people that voted for somebody must like them or love them or be a raving fan of them. And all of these, all candidates have a portion of raving fans. And that’s what you hear about in the news is, well, the latest poll shows this. So the mindset is, oh, my God, that many people love that person? How can they? How can they be ignoring this? And how can they not see that? Very possible that when they answered the poll that day or when they went to the voting booth or however absentee vote, it wasn’t that they’re raving fans of them. It’s that they went through a, these are my important issues, and they seem to be best representative of the issues and the policies that I care about. So, dear God, please help this person. Please help these policies get forward. And please help me not be too bothered by the fact that that person is way less than…

[01:02:01.560] – Jill Renee Feeler
We could do far better than them. That’s totally different. And there’s still confusion about that. Even in this community, there’s still confusion about that. How could you? They’re not looking at it like you are. They’re making concessions that you may have been unwilling to make. And those of you that are idealistic have the hardest time with us. And we love that about you because there’s a huge part of you guys going, We could do so much better. And we are saying, Yes, of course you can. These candidates are not the best. And that’s another thing that is unique to America, is that other countries, again, maybe they’re losing their pure Purity in this instance, but other countries, when you travel abroad or you’re interacting with other people from other countries, and they’re like, Yeah, how do we explain this? They’re under the assumption that your best and brightest are being nominated for these positions. And you’re like, Oh, no, those aren’t the best. They know they’re… Other non-American Americans know that these are not your best and brightest. They’re so confused why you don’t have a system that has your best or brightest. They don’t know all of the concepts of the private enterprise and how these candidates are funded and all these things.

[01:03:31.170] – Jill Renee Feeler
They don’t know how broken it is, and they can’t imagine that it’s gotten to the point where you are getting these just really low-quality individuals in these positions. And they also are wanting to make sure you see that. So when you guys say, These are not our best and brightest, just so you know, that you will have a better conversation if you are feeling defense, like they’re asking you to defend it. We can’t defend it either as Americans. But there’s a lot of misunderstandings going on here. And for those of you that are idealists, and know you can do better, we’re just giving you an extra hug and an extra amount of compassionate grace that this is what makes us so hard, isn’t it? Yeah. Okay, Deborah, how helpful was that? Are we good? Are we better? Do you feel better?

[01:04:27.020] – Tiffany
I mean, yeah.

[01:04:29.920] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s such a mess.

[01:04:32.590] – Debra
It’s such a mess.

[01:04:33.580] – Anne
I don’t know.

[01:04:34.860] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s such a mess. I’m learning new things about other political systems all the time. I didn’t know that in Canada, you can offer your name up for the Senate, for their Senate system. And then the Prime Minister, I think I have this right. Paul tried to teach me this at the retreat about a week and a half ago, or he didn’t try to teach me, but he was answering questions, and I think I heard him correctly. So you put your name in and go, I’d like to be considered for a Senate position. And then the Prime Minister says, yay or yay, and you get selected or not. So I don’t think it’s a voting situation at all. And then they’re appointed like our Supreme Court system. They’re appointed until they’re 75 or something. But they can say, I’m done at any point they want. But they have that position for that long.

[01:05:32.630] – Anne
Yeah.

[01:05:34.150] – Jill Renee Feeler
Wow. Because we don’t have private funding of our Supreme Court justices, so it’s like that.

[01:05:40.740] – Debra
Yeah. And Parliament is interesting. It’s an interesting option.

[01:05:45.350] – Jill Renee Feeler
Yes, it is.

[01:05:45.650] – Debra
We could learn a lot.

[01:05:51.220] – Jill Renee Feeler
We could. Oh, you’re good. Oh, hang on. I’ve got somebody else. I got to mute them. Okay, there we Okay, Deborah. Switzerland, I need to look into it more fully, but from what I understand, Switzerland, nothing gets passed unless there’s an online majority of voters that say. Now, what they get to vote on is from their elected officials. So the elected officials are like, Well, let’s see if our people will approve this. Let’s see if our people will approve that. And it doesn’t happen unless, and I think they are required, and Australia has required voting, too, which I don’t know. Anyway, but yes, there’s a lot of opportunity for improvement.

[01:06:43.550] – Debra
For sure.

[01:06:45.040] – Jill Renee Feeler
I hope that’s helpful. It’s rough out here, right?

[01:06:48.430] – Debra
It is. In the scheme of.

[01:06:53.210] – Jill Renee Feeler
Because I don’t want to get apathetic either. I don’t want to get to the point of just like, it all sucks. It’s all corrupt. They’re all losers. And just throw my hands and go, I’m not playing anymore. I feel an obligation, like a moral obligation, to engage in some way. But I’m not pretending that that means what it should mean.

[01:07:19.130] – Debra
Agreed.

[01:07:20.150] – Jill Renee Feeler
Me too. Thank you. I’m so sorry. I love you so much. I miss you. Congratulations on your new place.

[01:07:28.540] – Debra
Thank you.

[01:07:30.020] – Jill Renee Feeler
I want fourth of July pictures. I don’t know where they do fireworks in your area, but if you have a view of fireworks from… Which river are you on? You’re on the Potomac?

[01:07:39.910] – Debra
I’m on the Hudson River. The thing is, I work that night because That’s our big event here. So we have the. Maybe Sage will be home and be able to take some pictures because I think they’re right there. But I’ll tell you, River Living, it’s different than an ocean, and it’s different than a lake. It’s It’s really interesting. It feels more like an ocean a little bit to me. But at the same time, there’s a lake quality about it as well. When it’s we might get kayaks. Yeah, I’m super stoked, honey.

[01:08:17.870] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s so good.

[01:08:18.920] – Debra
Yeah, and it’s the right space for me and my boy.

[01:08:23.100] – Jill Renee Feeler
So, yeah. Congrats. Thank you. Good move, Deborah. Love you so much.

[01:08:27.560] – Debra
Love you, too.

[01:08:29.540] – Jill Renee Feeler
Okay. Bye-bye. All right, you guys. Let me… Okay, Renee, if you want to raise your hand or unmute, I am here. I’m going to go back to that chat, though. Where is that? Where is that? There we go. Okay. All right, let’s see here. Okay. Good morning, Gillian, everyone. Good morning, Assa. I would like help in clarifying the differences between the ideas of, and there’s a good list here, All things happen for a reason. It wasn’t meant to be. Trust in divine timing, trust in divine guidance, trust in divine grace, trust in divine signs of reassurance or grace. Thank you so much. These are the really good lists, Lyssa. So thank you so much for that and good job. Yes. Okay. In what we offer you guys, We do not offer, we do not believe that all things happen for a reason. Okay. So for us, there’s a strikethrough of that. It’s like, Nope, a lot of things happen for no reason at all. So we can take that one-off. It wasn’t meant to be the same thing. This one is trickier. And we see why these are popular, because it is like for me as well, not getting that listing.

[01:10:02.360] – Jill Renee Feeler
It would be very reassuring to go up. It wasn’t meant to be. Everything happens for a reason. There would be a part of me that would be somehow comforted by that, that there was nothing, because it feels like there was nothing you could do. That’s why. But it’s not true. There is something I could have done. I could have come up with a value proposition that was better than their neighbor. That’s very true. Okay. Okay, so there’s that part. And trust in divine timing. We don’t believe there is divine timing. Trust in divine guidance. Just because you are guided, even divinement, does not mean things will go a certain way. Trusting in it is a little over-promising and often under-delivering. Divine grace, that one’s a good one. Trust in divine grace, yes. Always trust in divine grace. We still We still like that law here in this list. Divine grace is trustworthy, and it is always available no matter what the situation. In a way, we emphasize that one even more because we don’t believe that everything happens for a reason, because it doesn’t. We don’t believe that everything is meant or not meant to be.

[01:11:23.810] – Jill Renee Feeler
It’s almost like because those are true… How do I I might put this? Because that’s not really causation. It’s just that because we believe those aren’t true, it is very important that you have this other part that is true, that we are all offered God’s grace in every situation because things don’t happen for a reason and because things aren’t necessarily meant to be. Trust in divine signs of reassurance or grace. You don’t need a sign for grace because it is there, whether you have a sign or don’t have a sign, which is good. And trusting in the reassurance of grace, though, that’s a good thing. That’s trustworthy. I’m reassured by it, that that grace of God is offered even when we do mess up. Even if I did a horrible presentation for the listing, I’m using the silly example because it just happened. I am very reassured by the fact that that is available even if I did mess up in my team or God was like, you’re never going to get that listing because you totally screwed up. But I love you and there’s so much grace available to you. I hope that helps Lisa, but you are correct that those are contradictory.

[01:12:44.550] – Jill Renee Feeler
And that is why some of them, we do not teach that, and we do not go that way because literally, they don’t explain this reality, and it’s not really what’s going on in the system of belief that we’re offering. But we can’t prove it, which is why we’re calling it belief. But we’re very opinionated about it for a lot of reasons. So let me know if there’s other questions you have about that. Renee, are you unmuted? Let’s see. No? Okay. Maybe Renee didn’t know she was unmuted earlier. All right, you guys, we’re at just over an hour. Anything else, Lisa, on that or anyone’s last call, you guys? I hope my head goes away, you guys. Okay. Yes, so good. Lisa said that’s very helpful. Thank you. You are so welcome. Thank you for the very savvy list, sister. That’s good. Okay, I’m glad. All right. I feel Lisa… I feel your brain going, We just had to make sure we weren’t messing something because they… Here in the south, other places, is that what this team believes? No, it’s not what we believe. Okay, you guys. I think that’s it then. Yeah, that feels good.

[01:14:17.770] – Jill Renee Feeler
I love you guys so much. Sending love and blessings and gratitude for each and every one of you. For those of you that are experiencing the archive, I love you guys. I hope that you like the replay. I think that’s it. So yes, I feel motivated to get the retreat recordings into some a package situation and offering that. And I do want to do it. I feel like it deserves more than just like, Hey, here’s the recordings, and just throwing them up on the website. I feel like the materials in these recordings are so deep, and there were so many like, oh, my gosh, that makes so much sense moments of just profound clarity and huge new concepts that we’d never covered before, very non-repetitive to other things that we’d shared before. So I want to be more thoughtful about how I offer it and how it’s presented. Not just, okay, not what I normally do. I want to do something more special for this because I do think it warrants it. Anyway, maybe like what I did for the updating humanity workshop, and the only difference is that these materials are the retreat part of the messages is already available, but still I could offer the conversation with it and a Q&A after each one is released, that thing.

[01:15:58.110] – Jill Renee Feeler
So that’s where my head and heart are going right now. So stay tuned. Okay. I love you guys. Big hugs. I love you. I hope you’re doing well. Okay. I love you guys. Bye-bye. All right. Where’s the car? Where’s the one?