Addressing Possible Skeptics of Intuitives and Channels

I actually don’t get much input or trolling from skeptics. But, I do understand where someone’s skepticism of me and/or my work would come from.

This is a transcription of a podcast message.

Hello, this is Jill Renee Feeler and this is podcast number 225. I’m doing it as a pre record because I leave for Greece with the client trip on Wednesday and I’ll be gone for two weeks. I want to do something a little bit differently today. With this message I want to I don’t really get challenged by like skeptics and like, you know, oh, you know, that’s not possible. You can’t. That type of thing is all fakery and like, magic bullshit, there’s a trick involved or you’re a scam or whatever. I don’t get that kind of Encounter and energy. But when I do hear somebody that I respect, and appreciate in this world, that doesn’t mean I agree with them and everything but when I hear Joe Rogan, sort of, I want to say demean or kind of like Oh, are they a channeler or something like that. There’s a part of me that wants to offer another explanation I don’t know why I want to do this, it’s probably this message is probably not going to land on any sort of skeptic’s ears. But it may further support those of us that are maybe susceptible to that kind of, you know, criticism in our world so maybe we’re just preaching to the choir with this one, but I’m okay with that. With every thing that we share, we’re trying to offer the world what we wish it knew today because obviously, we hope it will be helpful.

Okay, so let’s sort of, yeah, let’s connect because we like to offer a connection exercise, I encourage you to take a nice deep breath, and just relax your face. nice deep breath. This is a space where you can be yourself, okay, as you’re listening to this just allow yourself a sense of home within yourself where you don’t have to defend yourself or you don’t have to earn somebody’s praise or prove your worth or value that you’re inherently valuable you’re love no matter who believes in you or not okay? Where your worth is not dependent on how many Instagram followers you have, okay? That you matter and that you’ve always mattered from the time you were a tiny little baby that there’s a version of source energy that there’s a what I call God that’s so happy with you and what you are and as always been very impressed with who and what you are and always knowing that there’s amazing capabilities for what we can be in our world and wanting to support that, that those even always improving, always better sort of ways of being ourselves. So it’s a way of feeling whole and complete while also feeling internally inspired for how much how much even better could I be? How much more could I like my me? And maybe having less regard for what others think of you. Wouldn’t that be a holiday? Okay, nice deep breath. So let’s play in that space. Okay.

Okay, where to start? Okay, so if I had the chance to sort of, and I’m going to make this chance today, right with sort of explaining to a skeptic. I would start off by saying, and let’s just pretend that I’m talking to them. I appreciate your skepticism. I completely appreciate the level of intelligence and rationality and pragmatism that you have that cannot believe that it’s possible to summon a level of wisdom and insight and revelation within yourself at will. I totally get it and you know what? I was like you I had never seen a psychic had never seen an intuitive not only had never I never wanted to. I thought that was just complete horseshit just nonsense like fortune telling. I put fortune telling and all of that In to sort of like, God, what a waste of time and money Who does that? Not me. I’m smarter than that. Okay, that was me. That was me.

So what happened? Right? What happened was that I was in a situation where I was overthinking some career choices and I was stressed out I am quite tied bay, I’m very thinking, I really have a sense of pride in my intelligence and my intellect, and my problem solving skills and my ability to get like really hard things done really, really well. Yeah, so it’s strategic planning. my undergrad is in economics and finance. I got my MBA. And I went through some of those hoops, right? I always thought I would I Well, I didn’t always think I had thought about you know, going into law and becoming a judge and then I wasn’t willing to put the time into school and I didn’t want to go away to school where the law school was in my in and I had gone to the local university, I’ve felt spoiled by the proximity of where I got my higher education, and how inexpensive it was and it was like, oh, law school, that’s a lot of money that I would have to pay for myself and I don’t know if I need that to be happy. So I didn’t do it. But I could have and I think I would have been great at that too. Anyway, so that’s kind of the type of person I am anyway, so I am type A, I do take myself seriously and I was stressed out about this thing and I have a sister in law who’s much more into the esoteric realm and that sort of thing and she’s like, what’s going on? and I think she was over for like a, we were hosting a father’s day thing, I think, or something and I said, you know, I got this part time, job in strategic planning that works so well, because, you know, our daughters are so young, they’re little. So that works great and I have this other opportunity that this, this woman, her dad invented this technologies in China, and she’s trying to get the business off the ground here and they need a CEO and I’ve always wanted to be CEO, but that, that’s not a part time gig and the income is not certain and there’s just I want to do it, but another part of me is just like shit, that It could go bad.

I mean, anyway, I’m stressed out about it. She said, you should go see my psychic That’s kind of the response I had in that moment. I’m just like this. I just was thinking That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of as a possibility for solution to this problem. So you get it. You know, you’re not listening to me. That’s what I don’t. I’m not. That’s dumb. No, why would I do that? Anyway, I just said, Oh, hey, hey, you know, thanks. I don’t think I’ll do that. But thank you and then we went on with whatever celebration we were having that day and I was 38 I think years old at the time. My daughters were three and six. Yeah, anyway, and then, within a couple days, for some reason, I just kind of became curious. I was like, I wonder, I wonder what an intuitive would say about this. I mean, it can’t hurt. I’ve got the money. You know that. I don’t even know how much it is. But I’ve got money for it. I wonder what they’d say I’ve never done that before. It can’t hurt and the my cost benefit brain went to it can’t hurt. And I got curious and Julie is very smart. My sister in law, she’s, I mean, she’s actually brilliant in a lot of ways she, wow. I mean, she majored in criminal justice in college. I don’t think this woman ever got less than an A, I think she literally was a straight A student her whole life. I mean, she’s amazing and yeah, she worked in juvenile detention center out of college and then she helped individuals and she just recently retired, but she helped individuals that were needing extra assistance and you know, being checked in on are they taking their medicine, some sort of like a social worker, type of service role and yeah, she’s Julie’s amazing.

Anyway, so that probably was part of it, too, is I really have a lot of respect for Julie. Anyway, so I ended up saying, okay, who is this person and I ended up booking a session and I think I was able to get in like the next week or something because Julie knew this intuitive really well, and I think took classes from her and stuff. So my expectations were low, but I had some degree of openness to what is this? What is this about, you know, and I was there. And she said, Okay, now Why are you here, Jill and I told her about my business decision. She goes, okay, well, let’s meditate together and I remember sitting there going, we’re going to meditate. I’ve never done this before and I looked at what she was doing and she was sitting there in front of me closing her eyes. So I sat in front of her, and I close my eyes and it felt like forever, and all I could notice were my thoughts and I was wondering what she was doing and I was thinking, and I, I’m like, I was there. for some reason, I was saying to myself, What if there’s no one there for me? What if she’s trying to pick up like a telephone, trying to get information from me, and what if no one’s there? and I was like that. Anyway, it was weird where I was observing my mind going With this awkward sense of I don’t know what I’m supposed to be doing here at this stage of the experience anyway, so and then, and like I said, it felt like forever and then all of a sudden she goes, okay, and then she had a hand recorder and she turned on the recorder and she started talking and she said, okay, so I see that you’re here for this, you know, this business decisions and you know, who’s going to you know, be CEO of that company, and that you may want that these other things and she said, but, but Jill, what I’m getting is that anyone can be CEO of that company. But only one person can be the mother to your children. And for as smart as I thought I was. I didn’t feel very smart in that moment. She was 100% right She wasn’t a psychic trying to guess my future. She was an advocate for my me seeing something I wasn’t seeing. It was amazing. And it was perfect and it was just like, oh my god, and I think I cried then just like I’m crying now and then we talked about a lot of other things. I mean, she was just like, you know, we talked about a difficult relationship with my sibling and she helped me to sort of have a energetic I guess detachment from her.

I’m the youngest of three girls. But if you look at sort of how the how the youngest one is supposed to act, I act more like the oldest child. I feel responsible for everybody. I’m always hoping everybody gets along and doing what I can to help everybody get along and my oldest sibling has they’ve had a hard life. I mean, just different things not going well and in school wasn’t easy for them and socially, there were some challenges, you know, early on in her life and she’s amazing. I mean, she’s a great person and I always felt like I could help her be a better her and she wasn’t asking for her little sister to be that for her, but she was willing to receive you know, my financial benefit if I you know, if they had a house fire or whatever, and I was like, okay. Anyway, there was just things where I was like, I can help financially and oh, you know, you have another baby, let’s, you know, maybe you need a house cleaner for a month and I can help with that I can pay for that. I was always wanting to try to make her life better. And I was realizing that it was actually causing me a lot of strain in my life because I felt personally responsible for my oldest sibling’s well being, and that’s not healthy for me, now that I have my own family and that sort of thing. So some sort of detachment and perspective of Wait, no, she’s her and you’re you and you’re not responsible for her. You’re not. There was that sort of experience of the session with this beautiful, amazing intuitive. What else was there? There were a lot of different things. The other one that that I wasn’t asking for and didn’t know what to ask for. She said, you are a deeply spiritual being. And I was just like, I don’t know what you mean by that is what my brain was thinking. Right? and she said, you’re very connected to this. The story of the I think she said the story of Jesus and Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene, and when she said Mary Magdalene and I, my knowledge and brain went, the prostitute? I knew so little at that, at that time of my Jill, I wasn’t my world, right? and I just was like, you know, some of the other things she said have been, you know, bang on and super helpful.

So maybe she’s right about this part too May be there’s a whole another side to me that I don’t see that they didn’t talk about in business school when I was getting my MBA. That that my choices of who and what I was, as Jill didn’t allow for these other layers. So it was just a whole like, holy shit kind of moment. Yes, just amazing. So I left her office feeling completely different about myself. I felt so clear. I felt like I was a deck of cards and I got reshuffled, and I was so happy to get home and you know, pick up my younger one from daycare and pick up my older one from her school and just so I felt so close to my children in a way that I think I didn’t, prior to that session. I felt the sacredness of my role as their mother and that didn’t mean I wasn’t, you know, a successful business person incapable of, you know, an intelligent, you know, projects and, you know, complex things getting solved and strategy, business strategy or, you know, whatever. Yeah, it’s, you know, the ability to do calculus and econometric analysis. I mean, that part didn’t wasn’t like, oh, now I don’t have that anymore. That was I added to with another version of relevance and priority of what I would have wished I think in what I’m was embarrassed to admit to myself wasn’t top priority and I said it was but it wasn’t on a personal level. I was prioritizing being a CEO and accomplished in business more than I was feeling a sense of blessing in the role that I had of being the only mother my daughters have in this life. Okay, so newfound respect for someone called an intuitive, and I couldn’t have had that had I not experienced that so are all intuitive like that? No, they’re not but that intuitive was exactly what I needed her to be in that moment.

So for those of you that are like that’s not real that doesn’t happen there’s no value in that that’s a waste of money. Have you had an intuitive session like that from someone like her or someone like me? Cuz I don’t think you know what you’re missing. I don’t think you can see what you can’t see. So your dismissing it is, I think stupid. I think you’re demonstrating your lack of intelligence for not recognizing that there is another level of possibility for not only what we can individually be as humans, but the level of wisdom and support and perspective, that someone else with a connection that was not based on, you know, a therapy degree or a psychology, you know, medical, you know, medical psychiatrists or something they don’t have human training in this, they have a gift that’s beyond this world, that they demonstrate to their clients every single day and the vast majority of the world looks at it and says, that’s not possible. That’s pretty arrogant to say that when you have no idea But I get it, I get that you don’t know what you don’t know. But I I respect your confidence but I think you’re making a big mistake and in the process you’re dismissing those of us that are really out there on the fringe out on a limb, taking great risks to our personal sense of credibility and we’re risking our we’re putting on normalcy at risk of you know, how our neighbors look at us how somebody you know, judgment from people like you. I just, I’m indifferent to it because I know better and I understand you and I get that you don’t get it. I don’t need you to get it. I don’t need you to validate me, but I know now from the inside and that led to my own giftedness, revealing itself and the first time I ever did. I mean, the reason I was in the psychic development workshop was not because was because my daughters were demonstrating telepathy, telepathy, I’m like, What the hell? They’re like she just read my mind. She just said the word I was thinking. I mean, she doesn’t know that word. And then I put it to the test and I thought in my thoughts, I love you so much, Georgia and that child leaned into me and gave me a hug as if I said it out loud. Do I know that from a five human sensory way that that is impossible? Yes, I do. But I can’t and I won’t invalidate my experience my data. can I prove it to you with the scientific method that we presently use on this Earth? No. I know I can’t.

I don’t need to. I’m living it. So for someone like you. That’s a skeptic That is questioning whether it’s real because you don’t believe it. I just think that’s silly. I think it’s funny. And I think it’s sad. Because I help people like you every day. In my work, right? So here’s what’s been really cool about since this is my background, you know, my dad was a pharmacist, my mom didn’t go to college, but she’s very intelligent and if she made it, made it in the realm of business as an she made it to the level of HR director, right, just I have smart parents. But we didn’t come from like a fancy family. Nobody, we don’t have a pedigree name. We didn’t go to fancy universities. My dad went to South Dakota State University for his pharmacology degree. I went to Boise State University so we’re not like we’re not, you know, like, Oh, I went to that school. We’re not elite at all. But I value education and all those things and because of my background, I wasn’t a skeptic as much in a way I was but I was mainly just a non believer. I just didn’t think that stuff was possible. Because of my background and my story kind of because I’m really good at what I do as an intuitive. my client base includes MDs, PhDs, I’ve had a couple priests that were clients and came back and I loved what came through for them and the support that came through for them and they weren’t pedophiles either. Probably bad humor right there. But anyway, yeah, I have a very amazing client base that includes those that are, you know, their parents were like shamans and might, you know, those stories of other people that have intuitive gifts like mine that night. My mom was a shaman. My dad was an astrologer.

I think that’s a different stories than mine. My background is so mainstream and there’s part of me as Jill that is still very mainstream, and very practical and very pragmatic if we, my husband and I initially didn’t want, we didn’t think we wanted to be parents. We got married in 93. When we were both 23 years old, actually, no, my husband was 24. Yeah. So we met at TCVY, the country’s best yogurt. When I was a senior in high school. He was a freshman in college. We both were going to the local university. Then we decided we did not want to get married until we both got jobs out of college and that worked out fine. We both got jobs out of college and he was in public accounting and I was in banking as a financial analyst. We got married we built our first house because we lived at home during college, saving money and then making good enough money where we had enough money. We never rented. We were very lucky and we made great choices and worked really hard at things that paid well. Anyway, so where was I going with this? I have a very mainstream background and very successful in what I did. Anyway and then I left by choice. At one point in my career, I was working part time, like we were talking about before, when I first met that intuitive. And I was working part time at a startup company that was paying me really, really well. I ended up not becoming the CEO of the other one and within a year or two, I think I’ve seen that first intuitive. My husband got a promotion and we looked at the finances and we were like, you know, I don’t have to work anymore. If we agree, what do you think? and we looked at the numbers and we crunched them and we’re like, oh, yeah, I don’t have to work anymore. That decision was prompted partly on my husband’s promotion at that time and also my employer at the time was wanting me to come back full time. They were like we need you more For the strategic planning, analysis and marketing support that you offer we need your job in a full time role and I didn’t want to do that.

So rather than saying yes to full time I said no thanks to any of it and I left anyway so that was the beginning of me having more free time for my daughters when they were young they didn’t my younger one didn’t need to be in daycare I think anyway and anyway just open up a lot of possibilities and then I was free to do more of this hobby of me being an intuitive Oh, the psychic development workshop Okay, this is going longer than I want it but if you’re still listening, hey, here we go. So I signed up for the psychic development workshop when I was still working as the part time strategic planner at this company called Memjet, home and office. Great company, Kia Silverbrook, absolute genius. look him up, Kia Silverbrook, legit genius and our company was based on his technology and he was one of the I think owning partners or founders or something. Anyway, so I was at the psychic development workshop, it was a Sunday night from four to six, I think two or three Sundays in a row. I was there to learn about what my daughters were demonstrating, like I said, in terms of telepathy and these sort of Twilight Zone sort of experiences that were actually I had actual experience in evidence and myself, I was allowed to read about others paranormal experiences or telepathy or ESP. I wasn’t that wasn’t my path. I wasn’t, I didn’t care about what other people were experiencing. This was my world and I was in it and it was like this is happening and it was curious and it wasn’t scary. It was kind of cool and kind of exciting, and I wanted to know more and there’s nothing like your child reading your mind to motivate you to get your mind clear. Right? Like, okay, if your child could, is demonstrating their ability to read your mind, you want to be really clear about what you’re thinking. Yeah, anyway, so I did learn to meditate and that sort of things that took a while as a Type A but it was worth it. Anyway so I’m in this psychic development workshop and the finale I think it was the third of the three nights that we were together the teacher kept looking at me really like curiously like he knew something that I didn’t know again like the first intuitive anyway, so he just kept watching me and from the very first time I did his method, which is psychometry or holding somebody jewelry we didn’t he had a great system. We didn’t know who’s, who brought what but he told us kind of do bring two things don’t bring the watch, bring the ring, bring a neckless whatever, yours or someone else’s that you can answer questions about and I went up there and I grabbed this ring and we went back toward our chairs and he said okay, now, right. Then he taught us you know, do this and do that and write down everything you’re getting and don’t think and it was like, don’t think, that’s what I do best. But I was there and I was willing I’m an overachiever.

So I was like, let’s see what happens when Jill doesn’t think and I hold on to a ring and I close my eyes and I just write down through free association, everything I’m getting. Well, apparently, I’m really good at that. yeah, I just felt that in my heart. I had a page of information and what I realized is I had a very different experience, than most of the people in that class, there were maybe 8 to 10 of us, if I remember correctly in this class, and we were taking turns, you know, people would raise their hands. Okay, I’ll go and you know, there were some people were sharing like, I think I saw a white picket fence. I don’t know and the teacher would say, what is the white picket fence to you? I don’t know. you know, just you know, they acted like they’ve never done it before, because none of us had done it before. But then I said, can I go? and he said, yes and I said, and I was the only one that did this. I said, Can I say whose ring this is? and everybody is just watching me, like, Who is this? and he goes, yes and I said, and I knew, like a laser focus. I was like, it’s your ring and I looked right at her fellow student in the class and she nods her head, yes and her friend, one of her best friends is with her and her best friend is all into is very metaphysicaly minded and well versed, and her friend is just like, oh, my God, you know. So then I just started going through what I had and I listened. I mean, I’m a great student. So when he said, some of you are going to feel symbology so you could just say what that is. But you could also go to the next level and say what that means to you and that’s what I did. So at one point when I was holding this woman’s ring, I felt almost like a clear sentient or clear cognizant sort of way. I felt roller coaster. So I didn’t say I saw a roller coaster. What I said was, I think you’ve had a lot of high highs and a lot of low lows, because that’s when I got goosebumps just as I said that, okay. It was as if I had been giving readings my whole life. I had never done this before. As we got through more and more information, there was one point in the like, you know, newbie, rookie reading, where I said, I felt like pain in my right hip. Do you have, do you have something wrong with your hip and she goes no, now the teacher knew what was going on and he helped me out.

He said, okay, Jill, hang on a second. What do you what do you carry on your right hip? and I think someone else in the class said laundry, and I was like is it laundry? He goes, he goes, No and no and he looked at me and he said, What does a woman hold on her hip? And I immediately said, baby, and I said and it hurts and I said, I looked at the woman whose ring it was and I said, Did you lose a child? Yeah. What happened is she lost two children. She miscarried, and I can’t remember how that came up. She was in this class, trying to communicate with her son that had been murdered five months before. So on my notes there’s this really interesting little box of a different for some reason, I wrote a box around it. I drew a box around it, sorry, and I had tiger and I was like, there’s this other information. I started I went back to the sharing and what the woman whose name was Paige was I think she ended up talking to the teacher named David and I think David said, now Paige. Do you agree that that last part that Jill was talking about was about Ryan that was the son that had been murdered. I’m crying, she’s crying. I have no idea why I have this emotion and why I’m getting this information all I know is it’s right and she’s validating it and I’m just like, oh my God and everybody in the class is just looking at me like, I thought this was the beginners class who is who is she? What is she? Right? Who is this Jill? Right. So I was it about that class. Is that class? No, it isn’t. The magic isn’t in the class. Nobody else had the response that I did. I ended up having clients that also took those classes, lots of them. They didn’t have that connection. Somehow I did. Am I just supposed to pretend? that’s not real because I can’t prove it to someone like you, a skeptic. That’s not the choice I made. I know I can’t prove it to a skeptic, but to somebody that’s open to this being a possibility, like I think God was with my first intuitive reading. I am a better Jill now, I didn’t lose IQ I probably gained IQ.

I added to what I already was. I didn’t do it like some new agers do where they had to throw out all the other ways that they were themselves and leave their families and go on a spiritual quest. That isn’t how I interpreted any of it. I felt like I had a super human skill that I would not, could not, did not want to deny that I wanted more of because I left that night feeling more I want to say helpful, relevant, real than anything else I’ve ever done in my life, ever. So I decided to take that experience and go, holy shit. Oh my God, they didn’t teach me this in MBA school, but this is also real. I don’t know what all this is, but I know what just happened in terms of the experience it offered for me for this other woman and all these things. Okay. So I kept going, I remained curious about what else I can do? what if and, I mean, I was the one that you know, sent out I think that the teacher said, Now some of you guys may want to get together after the classes over and practice. Some people do that right and I wanted to, I wanted to see what else I could do. So I think I was the one that set up a signup sheet Name, Email, phone number, and who wants to get together again after the class is over that class like the first intuitive was exactly what I needed to help me see me in a way that I don’t think this world otherwise could have shown me. Yeah. Okay. So we did get together and I think it was me always in the in that little group of us that wanted to get together after the fact that was like, Well, what if we don’t need jewelry? What if we can use pictures? What if we don’t need pictures? What if they don’t need to be there? What if it’s over the phone? I mean, so I was constantly like, what if I did it this way? It still works. What if I do it this way? It still works and I practiced on anyone that would let me do a reading for them. And I so in that little group, right? We would bring people in that wanted to get a reading and we would all read them. We were quite brave to do that.

Anyway, and there was enough good information. I wasn’t trying to validate all the information because what I realized is some of the things that you offer can’t be validated. But can feel right or can feel helpful. Sometimes people’s memories are wrong. So I’m not John Edwards, I’m not trying to, you know, guess the name of somebody’s grandfather. I realized I have what’s called the gift of medium ship, I realized that the way that I connect with somebody loved one is not as they were. It’s as a version of themselves at a soul level. apparently that’s unusual. I don’t know and again, I didn’t come into my gifts through this world. I’m not an experienced recipient of medium ship, or channeling or intuitives or psychic. I came in from an outsider saying, Oh, I guess I can do this too |let me offer myself because I liked it. And then I realized with some of the some of the messages I was giving, you know, these sample clients that sometimes I had ideas and wisdom I just wanted to share with the world. so sometimes I get ideas and I write them down and then I’m on Facebook and I came across you know, Rumi quotes and I’m like, God that feels like something I could write. So I’m not a student of Rumi, but I felt the similarity between the truths that I was accessing within myself that are offered in the world attributed to this man that was you know, from I don’t even know what era Rumi was from. But I felt a sense of kinship and peer. I felt like a peer to somebody like Rumi to somebody like Yogananda to somebody like Yeshua. I felt like Jesus was my brother. I as a former Christian I you know, I think the first reader that there was a part of me that I felt so blessed in my life that I sought out Christianity because I am from a, we have a loose Christian background as a child, we would go to Presbyterian Church, you know, on Christmas, that kind of thing. And I didn’t go through confirmation anyway, It was just a very loose structure. It wasn’t programmed in Christianity or anything. But as it you know, 23 year old feeling incredibly blessed coming out of undergrad that my life was going the way it was I wanted to, to give praise was my way of looking at it to God and I would listen to very Christian radio and those sorts of things and then at once, at some point in that experience, and I just remember feeling like I don’t think this is I don’t think the God of this and the way that I was interacting with some very devout Baptists and knew that we’re talking about You know, you’ve received, you know, But then they kept walking around talking about their sins in their testimony and that kind of thing and I’m like, but you, you didn’t let him wash that sin because you keep dragging around everywhere.

So if you’re really going to accept the blessing of what you say Jesus did, then it seems more authentic to actually not talk about the sin anymore. But they still, they were in, any way. So I recognize some hypocrisy in the application of Christianity and the teachings that felt often really unfortunate. So I started being like, well, okay, I definitely believe in a higher power and I definitely believe in what I would call God. But I do believe in a power of goodness, too. So atheists that are like who can be good without God, I agree with them. You can be good without God. I call it God. I call goodness, God. So that’s my way. It’s not a man on a cloud with a lightning bolt. That’s not how I look at God. It’s not a person. It’s not an anthropomorphication is Anyway, whatever that and I felt to any way I was more open to a more real sense of the God that I felt I was wanting to praise and honor not as a force outside of myself, but as a sense of honoring the goodness in our best possibilities of being ourselves in this world. Anyway, so that led to an openness. I didn’t study Buddhism, I didn’t study, you know, I didn’t read the Dow. I didn’t go on a quest. I just put down the Holy Bible, evangelical fundamentalist form of Christianity for a while while I was considering other ways of being good. So I didn’t try anything on I was just open and that’s when I you know, I had the young kids and I had the business financial not financial but business sort of, oh my God, do I want to be CEO and then because I was open, I think I was more receptive to those possibilities. So then it just all kind of grew from there. I’m really good at what I do. I, my MBA former, you know, version of myself from pre 2008 would be like, would probably say to me, oh my God, don’t ever do that in public, you’re going to look like a fool. That’s ridiculous. Even if you feel it’s right.

It sounds crazy. Don’t sound crazy. You’re going to ruin all the good work we’ve done to build a reputation as this credible, intelligent woman known as Jill Renee Feeler I totally get that that would be another version of me. But I love this version of me and I love this version of me that can look at someone like you as a skeptic, with a sense of understanding and seeing your intelligence and seeing your not wanting to look like a fool and wishing that, you know, maybe even your wishing for me that I would stop doing this so that I wouldn’t look like a fool because you don’t want to be embarrassed for me. I get it. Okay and I get that you don’t get what I am and that you don’t know what you think you know, and that way you’re discounting and discrediting. You are speaking from ignorance. I love you anyway. I do. I appreciate you for what you are. I appreciate a skeptic and I think you’re missing out on a lot and I’ve proven that to myself, and only you could prove that to yourself. Would I love to have a session with you? Would I love for you to book a session with me? Yes. But not if it’s for me to prove to you that I’m good. Don’t call me for that. I don’t want to waste my skills, trying to convince you. I don’t think it works like that. I think it works better the way that I saw my intuitive felt like she had something to offer and that it couldn’t hurt and I did it. And I was right. I was way more than right about what she was capable of. I completely she blew me away. I didn’t know that was possible. Yeah, yeah, very good. So can I prove it scientifically? Do I have a you know, studies that can be replicated? I have oodles of data. I don’t know if it would pass up to the scientific method. But I have amazing stories growing number of anecdotal evidence that would have made me go, that’s kind of weird, but I probably would have still discounted that as a former version of Jill. I’ve had clients that you know, I’m not a dream analyzer and I’m not a big proponent of dream analysis and I think a lot of dreams are just your mind being on restraint and when we’re sleeping And so I’m not a big like a dream advocate and I think some people’s dreams have meaning and can have prophetic abilities but I think dream analysis is often just pointless and not a valuable use of time.

Anyway somebody was telling me her dream and she wondered if there was some meaning in it and I as the intuitive in her session, she’s the client I reminded her of something else that was in the dream she was talking about a tree if I remember right I forgot about this I have so many stories like this I don’t keep track of them because I’m not trying to prove myself to people I already know I’m legit I already know I’m real, all right, I wouldn’t be doing this I don’t need this for the money. We have more than enough money I had already quit because we had, we didn’t need my income. Do I make a living at this? Yes, I do. Well, it’s extra income my husband makes all the makes the big money for Tesla’s and all that good stuff. I want to talk about charging part in a second but anyway, There was a tree outside the woman’s apartment, the client, and she, the tree was doing something and I said, I said, but yeah, you’re forgetting I’m getting intuitively and I’ll say words like your team is telling me because I don’t know what else to call it, you guys it does. I’m having a conversation in myself. That’s, that’s truth and wisdom and insights and you know, retelling of things that I don’t have access to as Jill and apparently the client doesn’t have access to either, which is why they’re coming to me. Okay. So I reminded her based on what I was getting, quote unquote, but wait, and she was like, that’s right. It was and she was like, She’s a genius. She doesn’t. It wasn’t she wasn’t going along with me. Like I was leading like leading the witness and something that wasn’t true. Anyway, okay. So there’s that. Anyway, so I have anecdotal evidence all day long of things like that And most of what I offer they don’t know. So they can’t, the client can’t validate it.

So when I’ve tried to explain this to my recently to my parents, longtime friends like okay, now Jill, what are you doing for a living again? Howdy how, what is it? and they couldn’t get it, especially your husband. He was like a, he was like a market research data guy that worked at Hormel for years really, really smart, super left brain, incredibly analytical and he was not buying it and I totally got it. He was listening and he was polite, that I could tell he was just not getting it and he said, So what you’re reading their minds and I was like, no, no, You don’t you don’t get it. I’m telling them things that they don’t know and I kind of flippantly said what would be the point of what would be the value in mind reading if I was telling them things that they already knew, but who would pay for that other than a parlor trick Why is that fun? I wouldn’t spend my time offering that service because I don’t. Who cares? Somebody can guess what you’re reading in your mind that you already know. So and right, that wasn’t what the intuitive was doing for me. I didn’t have that in my mind. I needed it offered to my mind so that my mind could say, oh shit, that’s right. Anybody could be that CEO of that of that startup company and nobody else can be the daughter to your children. So this business decision is way down the list of what’s really important here but you’re acting as if the it’s the biggest choice in the world that you have Jill. Wake up, shake yourself back to another sense of relevance and actual priorities in your life, okay and I listened so it’s not telepathy. Okay, so somebody like Joe Rogan, I’ve heard him say because I do I really love Joe Rogan’s podcast, especially the Science based ones yeah, the ones with the, What’s his name? Sean, the atheists that’s like an astrophysicist or whatever. Oh my God, I just love it. Anyway, good stuff. I learned a lot. It’s entertaining. I even listen to the MMA one sometimes. Okay, he sometimes makes a dismissive comment about, they’re just trying to make money. So some people that are skeptical of what I do discounted even more because of the fact that I make money for intuitive sessions.

Okay. Here’s the thing. If you go to a psychiatrist for therapy, or a therapist or a psychologist or whoever to share your problems with, get advice and tips from who would you rather go to the person that’s free or the person that’s charging you $300 an hour. Most of you are admitting to yourself, you’d rather go to the person that’s $300 an hour. Why? There’s a lot of possibilities, right? They take themselves seriously. They know they’re good. They know they’re professional. They know they’re worth it. They’re, you know that all of those things. That’s exactly why I charge. Do I need the money? No. But that doesn’t mean I’m not capable of earning the money and doing what I want with it. Right? I’m not forcing anyone to give a reading Then, let’s see, how do I want to put this Am I too expensive for some people to pay for? Yes. There are some therapists that people can’t go to because they’re too expensive, or their insurance won’t cover it. See, I don’t operate in the insurance realm because I’m not credible science. I’m credible. I’m not according to science. I’m very credible. Thank you very much. Okay. So this option that we have for allowing ourselves to know that somebody can be legit in an esoteric side of sort of realm like this, that and they can also make money and that just because they make money or just because I charge because I choose to charge because I want people that are going to take this seriously and take themselves seriously, the less I charge, the less seriously they will take the benefit of what I’m offering them. I’m the same way if I want a high quality coat, winter parka that’s going to keep me warm. You bet. I’m going to look more seriously at the $400 cool KUHO I think is how you pronounce the brand versus the $20 version at Walmart. I have an assumption, presumption, I guess, of quality based on the price I do and one of my degrees in economics. So I think I kind of that all made sense to me that way. Right.

So I charge what I want to charge. Do I feel like people are going to get way more benefit than what they’re paying me? Yes. Or I wouldn’t be doing this. I don’t need this to make a living. I don’t need to be doing this at all this, this isn’t my purpose in life. I have an amazing skill and I help amazing people at things that matter to me and matter to them and change people’s lives. I’ve been told, you know, one session with Jill is like a year’s worth of therapy. That’s awesome. That motivates me and I get emails from people saying, Oh, my God, what you said in that podcast, it was like you were talking to me. I hear that every day. Man. I’m not every day, but I hear it a lot. I hear it enough for me to keep doing this, and I love to travel and I love to offer experiences. So I offer a whole bunch of things based mainly on what I know I’m good at and what I like to do. So at one point when I say, Okay, I’m done. I don’t want to share myself in the world this way. Yeah, I don’t need this. I don’t need this work. I don’t need you to validate me. I don’t need you to believe in me. I, I believe in myself. I see me. I don’t need you to see me. Yeah, so are there frauds and charlatans and fakes out there? Hell yeah. There’s frauds and fakes and charlatans. I think in every profession, there’s shitty lawyers, there’s shitty therapists there’s, and there’s a whole bunch of nonsense in this world. But to put a hole to cast a huge net of everyone that’s calling themselves an intuitive. You’re just wrong. You’re just wrong. I know you’re wrong. You don’t know you’re wrong. You may never know you’re wrong, but I wanted to take the time today to offer my words related to this idea of addressing possible skepticism and I hope you got something out of it. I hope that you have a degree of openness about possibly maybe seeing an intuitive maybe it’ll be an amazing renew like the first one I got.

Maybe it’ll be an amazing really like the ones I give, but you’re gonna have to wait because, yeah, in terms of credibility and evidence, I’m booked out several months. So there you go. Okay, cheeky, a little bit right there. Okay, I’m sending my love to everyone here. I have no idea of course, who will listen to this. I’m not trying to presume who will listen or who will get benefit. But from those that learned a little bit more about me and you were already into my work. If you enjoyed it, and you’re still here, you must have gotten something out of it because you’re still here. All right. Did you waste time? I don’t know. That’s up for you to decide. Okay, I love you. Bye bye for now. I gotta go, I gotta get my younger one from school. Okay, bye bye.